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Come on, don't be absurdly floppy now, about image quality.
IT SHOULD INTERCUT WITH RED ONE. BUT WITHOUT ALL THOSE CRAZY OPTIONS.
4K (compressed) TO FLASH CARD. 24-25. That is cinema, or at least the future of cinema.
I don't need anything more, but I certainly don't want to go back, I don't want anything less. Everyone has been dreaming, asking and waiting for the highest resolution and 24 fps... for years. that's the easiest part, because it's so low.
Image quality camera: that's the first thing we need, and quite possibly the only.
flash card would probably be the only reasonable possibility anyway, since they are so compact, and the camera has to be small. Not ultra small, just small, which is simply the opposite of big. I don't want a fragile hard disk in my pocket to look after all the time.
4K is the heart of Red Digital Cinema, from the source to the screen. The dream was and is still this one, not another boring one.
why ask for less? why ask for 2k/1080i/p when that is exaclty what we feel was not enough in existing cameras for digital cinema? At least untill Jannard revolutionized this. Let's not go back from here, please. Let's go deeper, instead.
This camera could be really unique. It doesn't have to have all the infinite options that only a super modular camera like Red One has.
Nothing would make sense for Red one's little sister as much as being able to offer comparable image quality to Red One: that is 4K.
Please, 4k Mysterium TO FLASH CARD (or at least 3K, but on the same sensor or a very similar one. Perhaps, upgradeble to 4k in the future, in order to set it free from osolescence when it would get older.)
Why design/build/buy another sensor? an inferior one, is not nice.
Just take the uncompressed raw option out.
Compression is beautiful! but the image has to be big!
otherwise, I already have a Canon XH-A1 which is amazing, in the 1920x1080 segment. (and it has 3ccd, so that resolution is optimized and real). It can't enter the pocket of my shirt, but after all, what do I want? A toy?
Not even SRL photo cameras can stay in one's pocket. What's the problem with that.
2k bayer = less than 2k optimized. So, at 2k, Scarlet would have less resolution than a good HDV.
Do you want that? For what price?
Are we talking about a prosumer pocket camera or a professional pocket camera?
I would like a professional pocket camera. With big 4k sensor, so I can use it as a second camera with my Red One without having the video quality suddenly drop.
And I don't want all those accessories and possibilities, or hundreds of frames per second. That's silly. I'd rather have great images.
Sharp also make nice little pocket videocameras for the people who don't need 4k.
Yes, while subjective, that makes sense. We can have great 4k images on a good fixed glass. If Red decide to put a fixed lens, it will be fine for me.
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On a pocket camera?? you are joking. Aren't flash cards in your pocket not a good enough solution? do you prefer to stare at boring slow motions and have raw and lower resolution images than compressed, easy to handle higher resolution images at the most classic and immortal 24 fps?
I'm not going out with a video deck or computer hunging from my neck just to record video from a pocket camera.
The video has to be compressed anyway for an ergonomic reason, therefore there is no need for a deck even for when I come back home. because everything is recorded onto flash cards anyway. Just push them into the card reader of you computer.
Crash a Red camera??? Use HDV for that purpose, if it has to be only 2k/1080 something.
While if it will be 4K, as I hope it to be, I would never treat it badly.
for cinema imagery in one's pocket... please, make it pure and supreme: 4k solid state at 24-25fps.
I don't ask anything more than this.
Something like a Leica for moving images.
Agreed every word of it. I mentioned upgradable to 4k because all of us know where the future most likely will go. We have seen HVX footage up on the big screen, it looked pretty awesome. It does make one realize that 1080p is
good enough for the big screen. Red is about revolution, why not make scarlet 4k.
It was made clear that it will not compete with the red, so why not strip a few features that Red does not have so there's no competition.
A fixed lens, not as much as FPS, or something like that.
Jim, you're about to roll out your awesome 4k projectors, let us maximize our potential, give us 4k.