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Lenses for kidneys. Helium needs new glasses.

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I don't have kidneys to spare. So let's get that outta the way. I've been using the rokinon cine cheap lenses on my own projects for years, and whatever I can rent for work.

But the Helium is so stinkin amazing, I'm not not happy with my footage through the Roki's, so it's time to upgrade.

I can't afford anything crazy. But What would be the next step up from the Roki lenses, baring in mind weight, since I often go aerial, and handheld.

Thanks for your wisdom in advance.

CJ
 
yeah I use a 35mm, it is what I would be going with if i was sticking with modern still glass, sharp and predicatable

steve
 
There is a really reasonably priced set of Xennars for sale on REDUSER somewhere. But failing those the new sigma (primes) could be the best value lens for a long time. Can't wait to get my hands on those.
 
While it doesn't help Chris, or anyone concerned over weight for aerial use, the Red Primes can be had for reasonable prices these days and they perform beautifully on Helium. Wicked sharp and T1.8 across the set. The 18 25 and 35 are big and beastly though. The Cine Xenars fall into this same realm too.

The Xenons should work well on Helium, but I think they will really shine on the VV Dragon 8K sensor where they can really utilize their extra coverage.

If heavier cine style lenses are not necessary here, I would take a good look at the Otus primes, or the Milvus. Sigma Art... As others have suggested. I'm also finding that Matt & Jarred's two GDU primes have handy additions to the kit for all electronic use and compact configurations.

Options open up a whole lot more when considering some of the vintage options that have come up here.
 
I'm interested in the Celere HS lenses, but Dan was not very fan of them... I'll have to test them though.


Dan Kanes said:
Sigma Cinema Lenses, or if you don't want to spend the extra coin$ - regular Sigma Art Lenses + OMOD POE / LATITUDE box + handset...
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Hello does focus pulling work with those electronic lenses? Smoothness, precision and speed?

Thanks.

Pat
 
Patrick Tresch said:
I'm interested in the Celere HS lenses, but Dan was not very fan of them... I'll have to test them though.




Hello does focus pulling work with those electronic lenses? Smoothness, precision and speed?

Thanks.

Pat
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Otus focus pull is nice for a stills lens, but it is manual only. Long range on the 55mm and 85mm. The 28mm is short. I have the OMOD Command RT and I use one motor for focus and the RTmotion controller can also control the electronic IRIS of the Canon lenses, including the Otus. It does click though. I have the Cine-Mod Pro from Duclos. Love the 95mm front rings and the metal focus ring with no noticable connection points on the ring.
 
Stacey Spears said:
Otus focus pull is nice for a stills lens, but it is manual only. Long range on the 55mm and 85mm. The 28mm is short. I have the OMOD Command RT and I use one motor for focus and the RTmotion controller can also control the electronic IRIS of the Canon lenses, including the Otus. It does click though. I have the Cine-Mod Pro from Duclos. Love the 95mm front rings and the metal focus ring with no noticable connection points on the ring.
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Interesting. I'm still waiting for the RTsidekick to be released... can you map the smaller rotation distance of the 28mm barrel to have a longer focus throw on the RTmotion controller or the thumbwheel?

PS: I wonder why Zeiss didn't do the Otus 35mm first?
 
Chris Jordan said:
I can't afford anything crazy. But What would be the next step up from the Roki lenses, baring in mind weight, since I often go aerial, and handheld.
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I'd look at a late Leica R set. Light weight, smooth manual focus throw with great IQ and Leica character.
 
I switched most of my lenses too after going from DSLR/Sony A7S to the RED and mostly use Zeiss Milvus/Distagon for my shoots. I'd say they are a huge upgrade compared to the Rokinon's, much sharper, better colors and are fairly affordable, however when shooting Helium, I'd add an extra buck or two and go for the Zeiss Otus.
 
Jarek Zabczynski said:
Anyone using Schneider Xenon on Helium?
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They're kick butt, but I bought Summicrons a while ago so I'm selling my Xenons. If you're interested shoot me a PM.
 
Just a note on the Zeiss S35 21-100, I think it will just about cover the Red sensor at 8K, similar to most current S35 lenses, this Zeiss zoom had an image circle of 31.1 mm, the Red sensor is 29.90 mm x 15.77 mm and that gives a Diagonal of 33.80 mm but I doubt that at its widest 21mm, there will be any visable viegnetting at 8K.

I am sure, someone has done a simple test against a white background somewhere.
 
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