Leica Thalia - Large format cinema lenses

[Phil Holland]

60mm image circle, based on Leica S Medium Format Glass with one new design in there.

24-180mm primes.

https://thecinelens.com/2017/03/28/leica-announces-new-thalia-line-ahead-of-nab/

 

[Michael J Brennan]

Lecia Thalia lenses

Lecia Thalia lenses

New lens set from Lecia derived in part from their medium format glass.

http://cw-sonderoptic.com/leica-thalia-new-lenses-big-picture-cinematography/

Gerhard;
“While they are new*lenses, they do offer many of the characteristics that have encouraged cinematographers to pair older lenses with digital sensors. They are clear without being overly sharp. Focus is smooth and forgiving without appearing soft. Skin tones are natural and smooth with an accurate color rendition.”


Thalia, Greek mythological figures
* Thalia (Grace) (Θάλεια, "Thaleia"), one of the three Graces
* Thalia (Muse) (Θάλεια, "Thaleia"), the Muse of comedy and idyllic poetry
* Thalia (Nereid) (Θάλεια, "Thaleia"), a Nereid
* Thalia (nymph) (Θάλεια, "Thaleia"), a nymph and secondary goddess of vegetation

Mike Brennan

 

[Mark Andersen]

You bet me to it, I was just about to post about these. They look very interesting, but I'm sure they will be spendy too.

 

[Samir Patel]

Looks good. Will stick with my Leica-R

 

[Louis Maddalena]

I love my Leicas! I'll definitey look into buying these.

 

[Timothy Jones]

I wish Zeiss would do this with the Otus line .

 

[Michael Tiemann]

At first I read this as an announcement of a 24-180 zoom lens. Then I read the article. My Fujinon Premier Pro 24-180 T2.6 can go back to sleep now.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Yeah and reason I stopped pursuing the Leica S re-housing with IBE Optics, well done WC-Sonders Leica, finally!!

 

[Phil Holland]

I wish Zeiss would do this with the Otus line .

I imagine once they have 2 more lenses in the range, or at least hard designs for them, that would open up that possibility.

In the mean time, Duclos has the Cine-Mod Otus and if you want to destroy the lens for a full rehouse, GL Optics.

 

[Timothy Jones]

I have always heard the S line described as some of the best modern designed lenses. I suppose they have tweaked them to make them more interesting.

 

[Marcus Friedlander]

I'm still speechless and trying to wrap my head around the fact that a VV dragon + a Thalia prime = an 8k Vistavision cinema package that is light enough to be drone mounted.

The lenses are 2.4-3.7 pounds and the camera can be functional at like 8 pounds. Am I the only one who thinks it's absolutely ludicrous that we can get such mind blowingly good imagery in such a small footprint?

 

[David Battistella]

Looks good. Will stick with my Leica-R

Agree. These will be nice though.

 

[Karim D. Ghantous]

IIRC a lot of people, spectators and working DPs alike, were theorising about such a product. From what I have seen, though, S lenses are very sharp. That's not a bad thing, of course. But I wonder what is meant by "They are clear without being overly sharp." Maybe they mean that the focus fall-off is very smooth, similar to the Otus lenses.

 

[David Battistella]

HI guys,

I just merged two threads on these lenses. Let's put all the discussion in here.

David

 

[Satsuki Murashige]

Medium format coverage cine lenses are very exciting. Are the focus marks really going to be so narrowly spaced though? I realize these images show a set marked in meters, but I'm looking at a 100mm T2.2 'normal lens' that appears to have a focus scale that runs from 3m-inf (or approx 10'-inf) in less than 45 degrees of travel? Can that be right?

 

[Karim D. Ghantous]

Satsuki, as far as I can tell from the very few images available to me, the 100/2.2 has more than 3m-infinity in 45 degrees. There is not enough detail in the product image, but it looks like 1m-infinity in that 45 degrees.

The S35 Fujinon 18-55/2.9 has about 2m-infinity in 45 degrees, in comparison. I doubt that Leica would give less precision than that:

https://thecinelens.com/2017/02/21/...unches-with-an-18-55mm-t2-9-try-it-at-duclos/

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

I wish Zeiss would do this with the Otus line .

Zeiss has a "new primes" surprise coming too ..

 

[Richie Allen]

Zeiss has a "new primes" surprise coming too ..

Primes or Prime? or would that be giving too much away?

 

[Peter Lyons Collister ASC]

I will add that the Leica rollout soiree was very nicely done with a full bar, very nice hors d'oeuvres and the lenses with models set up with an Alexa 65 and the Panavision DXL Red VV camera.

Nicely done

 

[Satsuki Murashige]

Satsuki, as far as I can tell from the very few images available to me, the 100/2.2 has more than 3m-infinity in 45 degrees. There is not enough detail in the product image, but it looks like 1m-infinity in that 45 degrees.

The S35 Fujinon 18-55/2.9 has about 2m-infinity in 45 degrees, in comparison. I doubt that Leica would give less precision than that:

I hope you are right. The Fujinon S35 ENG style zooms were designed for short focus throw to make it easier for the camera operator pulling their own focus. On the other hand, all of the Leica C primes so far have been high-end cinema primes. I thought the Summicron-C focus barrels were a bit lacking in both spacing and reference marks. I hope these are more like the Summilux-Cs in that regard. The focus pullers will need all the help they can get with these large sensor cameras!