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Legal Action against Carrion Monitors

Nick Gardner

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I am wondering if there is anyone else still waiting after more than a year, for their monitor. No refund, no contact, no monitor.

If there are several of us it might make legal action affordable. I want my money back to spend on something use full. I don't think theft of this type should be tolerated in such a small community.

Post here if you are owed money or a monitor. I imagine there is a fraud charge in there as well. Lets get our money back.

Nick
 
I'd be ok with giving him til the end of the month maybe? I really want the monitor, but I do feel robbed. And this, taken from his still live website, is certainly a fraudulent statement:

NOTE: WE ARE ACCEPTING ORDERS.

All orders have a 4-5 Weeks Lead Time before they Ship.
 
If you paid with credit card I believe you can dispute the charge with your cc company. I understand it has probably been a while since you "ordered," but I'm sure your cc company will be able to help... if you paid thru bank, check, or MO, I think legal action is probably the only recourse. Hope you guys get your money back, or atleast a monitor.
 
The last thing I would ever want to encourage is more lawsuits in this country. However, this seems like a valid scenario to do so. Soooooooooo glad I didn't buy one of these as I almost put my money down as well. Good luck!
 
This story is shaping up not to have a happy ending. Unfortunate. Sigh!
 
Isn't someone on here in contact with him? Surely this can be discussed some how...or someone could simply fly over and sit down and talk it out...I mean its cheaper then a law suit right?
 
Isn't someone on here in contact with him? Surely this can be discussed some how...or someone could simply fly over and sit down and talk it out...I mean its cheaper then a law suit right?

For the extended length of time this has been going on its clearly evident the guy has no honor.
 
Luis is 100% honest. I've been in touch with him. He will honor each commitment. Give him time.

I am his friend, but his customer too. As any one of you, I'm still waiting.

Moreover, a few days ago, I suggested to send him money in order to add two units without asking when I'd receive them. He refused 'cause he has been overbooked with the high demand his monitor has had.

I'd place my money with him in a blink of an eye any time. As I did in the past. As I will do in the next future. Just not today, just 'cause he has asked me to.

Emanuel :-)
 
well guess in this case the best way to go about this is if there is anyway of knowing where he is with the orders :) That should solve this whole 'what the hell is going on' problem...

I think thats what everyone wants to know really...though feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...
 
What I've heard from him just a few days ago (before this thread) is that he's trying to deliver all the orders he has in hands so far. Luis' word. To me, I don't need nothing else. BTW, it is a Law graduate with academic experience in the field too who's posting this in a public forum.

Luis is 100% honest. I've been in touch with him. He will honor each commitment. Give him time.

I am his friend, but his customer too. As any one of you, I'm still waiting.

Moreover, a few days ago, I suggested to send him money in order to add two units without asking when I'd receive them. He refused 'cause he has been overbooked with the high demand his monitor has had.

I'd place my money with him in a blink of an eye any time. As I did in the past. As I will do in the next future. Just not today, just 'cause he has asked me to.

Emanuel :-)
 
I think really all he has to do is get in touch with those of us who are waiting for our monitors and give us an estimate of delivery and explain the situation. If he did that he would defuse the antagonism (at least for me) and get things (to some degree) back on track. I know there was an earlier effort for friends of his to contact him and let him know how angry people were getting, but there was no follow up to that. I complete and honest explanation (more than "I'm over-booked") would go a long way towards making this right. Silence is the worst thing he could do.
 
The man is still taking people's money and saying it's a 4-6 week lead time Emanuel. I don't care if he's the pope, that is straight-up fraud. Better hit the law-books again if you think that's an ok thing to do.
I am not inside his business model. Taken your information as valid, have you been wondering why so, then?

I just said what happened with me as his customer in the first half of August. As well, my experience with Luis as his friend. I stand it, nobody will lift my POV on the matter. Or will shut my mouth. It is easier to crucify anyone with dirty laundry than to think wisely in order to keep a constructive way in behalf of everyone here. You included.

Better than to be so quick to assume what others think before asking first. Do you have any idea about my private communication with your target by any chance?

If you think 'your' law will suit that so good, go ahead. And maybe you'll need to pay a higher fee to someone used to hit the law-books sooner than a next thought onwards.
 
Emanuel, if you want to defend this guy, as you say on a public forum, how about you send me the $2000 he owes me. Apparently he's good for it, and he's a real sweet guy, so I'm sure he'd pay you back.

Nick
 
I think really all he has to do is get in touch with those of us who are waiting for our monitors and give us an estimate of delivery and explain the situation. If he did that he would defuse the antagonism (at least for me) and get things (to some degree) back on track. I know there was an earlier effort for friends of his to contact him and let him know how angry people were getting, but there was no follow up to that. I complete and honest explanation (more than "I'm over-booked") would go a long way towards making this right. Silence is the worst thing he could do.
Rob,

That 'overbooking' quote is mine, extracted as my conclusion from my private communication with him on the subject.

I remember your PM a few months ago asking if I might contact Luis in order to keep him on track.

I believe he is on track. I don't subscribe his lack of communication either. But to each his own. There are extroverted people and timid ones. I know Luis is too upset with this situation. But he also depends on others. And he is not the type of showing off excuses, nor promises which he already knows in advance that he won't comply.

E. :-)
 
Emanuel, if you want to defend this guy, as you say on a public forum, how about you send me the $2000 he owes me. Apparently he's good for it, and he's a real sweet guy, so I'm sure he'd pay you back.

Nick
Nick,

Everyone here knows your right to your indignation. What are you expecting from me? An ironic reply? I'd rather post that I am not his banker and he didn't ask me either.

E. :-)
 
Everyone on here has done our best to be patient AND constructive Emanuel. All we've asked for is communication. If he's a timid person, then fine, he can just post on here instead of personally calling or e-mailing his customers. The last time he DID post he got a bunch of "thank you for the updates," and from me as well. He didn't get assaulted with negative posts, he got THANK YOUS!
 
Everyone on here has done our best to be patient AND constructive Emanuel. All we've asked for is communication. If he's a timid person, then fine, he can just post on here instead of personally calling or e-mailing his customers. The last time he DID post he got a bunch of "thank you for the updates," and from me as well. He didn't get assaulted with negative posts, he got THANK YOUS!
I share your POV on this post. That's what I've said to Luis even today via email. Now it is up to him. I've just posted over this thread 'cause I thought it could be useful. I'd appreciate to know it, being you. He didn't pay or ask me to be his spokesman or PR. I am just his friend. And if he has friends like me, Bruce or many others, it should be for any reason. I'd praise my luck for dealing with honest people as this guy here. ;-)
 
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