LA TIMES weekly / EPIC

[chrislancaster]

So was the Cube. So was Firewire. So was the PowerPC.

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

he's right a lot tho..

 

[Terry VerHaar]

So was the Cube. So was Firewire. So was the PowerPC.

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

You can bet that Apple won't use Flash. So unless the iPad flops, along with all the newspapers and magazines that are racing to embrace it, you can be sure that HTML5 will be at least as ubiquitous as Flash - and it will take a lot less time to get there. And there's those, what... 20 million iPhones... and counting?

You can bet against Steve if you want, but your odds are rarely very good. :emote_headwall:

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Prototype Epic camera

Prototype Epic camera

You can't buy that new Greg's video shot on Epic prototype at Austrian iTunes store!

Prototype Epic camera

From Greg's blog: "Here's a backstage shot from the set of Tell Tale with my co-DP Steve Nelson
and I working with one of the prototype Epic Camera back in January at Red Studios."

LINK>>>

 

[chrislancaster]

You can't buy that new Greg's video shot on Epic prototype at Austrian iTunes store!

Prototype Epic camera

From Greg's blog: "Here's a backstage shot from the set of Tell Tale with my co-DP Steve Nelson
and I working with one of the prototype Epic Camera back in January at Red Studios."

LINK>>>

the movie is nice and dark

but the quality from itunes was mediocre at best

 

[Stephen Gentle]

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

Remember when 95% of the web used Internet Explorer? When everybody thought Firefox would fail because it didn't support Mac OS X? When all businesses only used IBM PCs? When you couldn't do real work on anything but MS-DOS? When almost all movies were filmed on 35mm?

Things change... Flash is going to become an insignificant part of the web in the next year or two.

 

[Todd M.]

So was the Cube. So was Firewire. So was the PowerPC.

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

You might have different friends, but I don't know one person who uses flash when they want to display high resolution content, or want to preserve as much image quality as possible. Flash was originally designed for animating very basic vector graphics. Adobe dropped the ball by not recognizing the shift towards web content with more rich media and failing to more quickly incorporate higher quality compression options for raster content.

Flash was/is great for animated user interfaces and advertisements (which is why all those commercial sites still use it), but you can do that with javascript, css and php now. Flash was only ever preferred for video content if you didn't care about image quality. So why use it now? HTML5 is open source, will be universally accepted by browsers and can natively decode h.264. I spend a lot of time working with web designers and every single one of them is moving towards these new open standards and away from Flash.

The latest numbers I could find suggest that at the end of 2009 there had been over 41,000,000 iPhones sold worldwide. The iPad sold an estimated 650,000 in it's first two days and is estimated to be 7,000,000 worldwide by the end of the year. That's a whole lot of users to piss off with a Flash based site.

As Jim might tell you: with a great vision and billions of dollars behind you, you can have a serious impact on markets.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Skin tones on Epic Prototype

Italian-American actress Carla Gugino shot by British-born photojournalist Greg Williams on RED Epic Prototype (detail 1 from Tell-Tale, a short movie by Greg Williams).

 

[Pierre Alt]

Wow !

 

[Steve G]

Nice skin tones. But that 5 k resolution really shows up bad make up, IMHO.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Skin tones detail 2

Skin tones detail 2

One more detail

Italian-American actress Carla Gugino shot by British-born photojournalist Greg Williams on RED Epic Prototype (detail 2 from Tell-Tale, a short movie by Greg Williams).

 

[Matthias Hutter]

Waitress: "Harry Potter." Who's Harry Potter?
Harry Potter: Oh, no one. Bit of a tosser, really.

Lg, Matt

 

[peter roehsler]

make up

make up

Nice skin tones. But that 5 k resolution really shows up bad make up, IMHO.

yeah, bring on the super baltars!

 

[Sam Taylor]

Just pulled it up on my iPad. I have to say it's a little freaky seeing a magazine cover come alive like that and the still model start talking to you. Won't be long before Movie posters at the Theaters start doing that and the eyes follow you as you walk by.

-michael zaletel

Similar to what we saw in "The Island"!!

 

[G Lap]

most of us haven't known that they are actually being used not by the RED team

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43112


This was being discussed a week ago.......always worth taking a tour around the forum from time to time.

 

[Michael Dalton]

Waitress: "Harry Potter." Who's Harry Potter?
Harry Potter: Oh, no one. Bit of a tosser, really.

Lg, Matt

I always thought the papers in Hairy Potter were a very clever idea, and would be cool if one day they were reality. I guess this is becoming one day. It is amazing to think that we are on the verge of a new way of looking at an old somewhat outdated idea of the newspaper and magazine. Pretty cool! I'm willing to bet the first issue of playboy will be interesting! Jim can shoot the first moving centrefold with epic!

 

[Joe Carney]

I'll be interested in something like an iPad when it's true HD, or at least 1280x720. Until then, it's like buying a Standard Def TV.

 

[Jeremy Neish]

So was the Cube. So was Firewire. So was the PowerPC.

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

Ummm.... Firewire pre-dated Steve's return to Apple, and was a great success either way, and it continues to be a valuable tool for those of us that like to plug in more drives than we have ports. The PowerPC (also pre Steve Jobs) was also an industry leading technology for it's time, and continues to be used in millions of devices (can you say X-Box?) And in case you weren't paying attention, the Cube came back very successfully about a year later, but it was called an iMac and had and arm with a Monitor attached for less money. With the possible exception of the iPod HiFi, Steve Jobs has had very few duds in the last 12 years. (And by the way I own two iPod Hi-fi's and I love them).

 

[Ryan S]

What do you mean? Protoypes are around. We've known that for a couple weeks, since Jim confirmed it. Are you suggesting that Tattoo cameras are "in the wild"?

I knew the prototypes were built and running, but I didnt think anyone outside of Red was being allowed access. There was another magazine shoot which incorrectly stated they were using Epic when they really had M-X.

I fully recognize that I might have missed something but this LA Times stuff is the first instance I've read of actual Epics in the wild outside of Red.

Edit:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43112This was being discussed a week ago.......always worth taking a tour around the forum from time to time.

This is what I mean! This thread seems a little confused over whether it's a prototype or an M-X, or what.

 

[Dustin Brown]

Is it just me or does the trailer on youtube and itunes look really bad quality compared to most of the other red footage I've seen? Was there some type of formatting/ upload issue that messed with the quality?

Great news that Epic is now out in use... means they're one step closer to the release!

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

So was the Cube. So was Firewire. So was the PowerPC.

Just because Steve says it doesn't make it true, especially in this case, where close to 90% of commercial websites use Flash in one way or anotherr.

And that percentage is going to nose dive FAST.