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KOMODO....

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I guess the big question next is whether or not it supports 10-17 volt input like the other Red cameras or whether it will require stepping down to 7.2v when using the power lemo. Would definitely be useful to have it support a larger voltage range!
 
Andrew Dease said:
You're not worried about these third-third party batteries ruining your Red cam?
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They wont ruin your Red cam...but it probably wont start it. MOST of the 3rd party BP batteries use the cheaper cells that can't sustain the amps needed for Komodo. The Canons do. I guess technically the canons are still 3rd party... at least to us.. but yeah.

Robert Parkin said:
I guess the big question next is whether or not it supports 10-17 volt input like the other Red cameras or whether it will require stepping down to 7.2v when using the power lemo. Would definitely be useful to have it support a larger voltage range!
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The power in lemo is normal camera 12v ( 14.8v ) so you can use a V lock on a belt clip cabled to the Aux in etc.
 
Thanks for taking the time to respond Jarred!

Is there any additional weather proofing on this camera compared to other Red cameras? Seems like this would be a useful feature for a crash cam and the stress test photos certainly alluded to enhanced abilities in this area.
 
Dear Jared,

I am new to this forum and new to RED in general. I know most on here have the more expensive RED cameras and the Komodo is very cheap in comparison. But for me, it's taking every penny to save for and will be the most expensive camera purchase I have made since the last expensive camera I purchased. I can usually wait patiently with technology, but I have trouble waiting for any piece of technology that is named after a lizard, so you found my weak spot and you attacked it viciously. Bravo to you. Because of this, my excitement and anticipation is through the roof. For example, while my daughter was being born and I was in the middle of a very severe panic attack, I constantly zoomed in and out of the white stormtrooper Komodo picture on your IG as a form of cognitive behavior therapy to bring me "back into the now". Baby is great by the way, I told my non tech savvy wife I needed Cfast cards in order for her baby monitor to activate, worked a treat with no questions asked. So what is the whole point of this? Well, its a new year and a new me - and I was hoping you could answer 3 questions of mine to help curb some of the withdrawals I have been experiencing and to welcome me into the family. Questions are:

1. Can you please share any footage shot with the Komodo by February 14th? I can't head into valentines day in this current state, I am too flustered to be romantic.

2. Will the Komodo have any anamorphic shooting modes? I like blue streaks in my footage to fit in.

3. I understand a release date is pending on finalized testings, but can we please get a final price soon for us non hydrogen users? It's been mostly speculation and I need to figure how much money I am taking from my daughters college fund (education is overrated).

Thank you,
Mardy
 
Mardy Depenhim said:
Dear Jared,

I am new to this forum and new to RED in general. I know most on here have the more expensive RED cameras and the Komodo is very cheap in comparison. But for me, it's taking every penny to save for and will be the most expensive camera purchase I have made since the last expensive camera I purchased. I can usually wait patiently with technology, but I have trouble waiting for any piece of technology that is named after a lizard, so you found my weak spot and you attacked it viciously. Bravo to you. Because of this, my excitement and anticipation is through the roof. For example, while my daughter was being born and I was in the middle of a very severe panic attack, I constantly zoomed in and out of the white stormtrooper Komodo picture on your IG as a form of cognitive behavior therapy to bring me "back into the now". Baby is great by the way, I told my non tech savvy wife I needed Cfast cards in order for her baby monitor to activate, worked a treat with no questions asked. So what is the whole point of this? Well, its a new year and a new me - and I was hoping you could answer 3 questions of mine to help curb some of the withdrawals I have been experiencing and to welcome me into the family. Questions are:

1. Can you please share any footage shot with the Komodo by February 14th? I can't head into valentines day in this current state, I am too flustered to be romantic.

2. Will the Komodo have any anamorphic shooting modes? I like blue streaks in my footage to fit in.

3. I understand a release date is pending on finalized testings, but can we please get a final price soon for us non hydrogen users? It's been mostly speculation and I need to figure how much money I am taking from my daughters college fund (education is overrated).

Thank you,
Mardy
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congratts on the new baby!

1. yes... but probably a week or so sooner.

2. yes... but not officially due till 2 (ish) months after initial release.

3. Still too soon to tell. I keep adding things to Komodo that costs me more and more so not till I am done doing that can we tackle the whole Hydrogen thing. On a positive note... I think after Komodo's massive test I just did here in Miami I don't need to add any more than the 3 things I already have in cue for the next ( and lets hope final ) pre-production run. I get those changes back mid feb, and if all is good, then I will be able to tell you what you Hydrogen get as a discount.
 
Jared,

Thank you. Appreciate your transparency. Just a quick correction, I was asking for a price soon for NON hydrogen users - as most folks have been guessing that it would be around $6k for non-hydrogen users. But I understand even that might not be finalized as it sounds like you are still adding more.
 
Mardy Depenhim said:
Jared,

Thank you. Appreciate your transparency. Just a quick correction, I was asking for a price soon for NON hydrogen users - as most folks have been guessing that it would be around $6k for non-hydrogen users. But I understand even that might not be finalized as it sounds like you are still adding more.
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Not final yet. But very close.
 
Jarred Land said:
They wont ruin your Red cam...but it probably wont start it. MOST of the 3rd party BP batteries use the cheaper cells that can't sustain the amps needed for Komodo. The Canons do. I guess technically the canons are still 3rd party... at least to us.. but yeah.
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These Swits are reasonably priced (47Wh, $89) and have an accessory power output and charge indicator - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1130035-REG/swit_s_8845_7_2v_47wh_replacement.html/specs. Max 30W / 4A which I'm guessing is enough for Komodo if it runs for hours and hours on a pair of batteries. Can you tell us the power requirements yet?
 
Jarred Land said:
heh heh.. the only ones that I can get in trouble is with you all , so don't worry about me.

And I am not criticizing DXO or anyone else.... not sure how this conversation went down that road.. But measuring Dynamic Range as I said is very much subjective and all depends on how you measure.

If you have ever shot a latitude chart, opened the files and then started counting the boxes you almost always say an "ish" for the very last 1/2 , 1/4 or 1/8th of a stop. the value of the "Ish" is the subjective part.

And... As much as you would assume that Engineering measures conservatively and then Marketing turns that into something higher.... It is actually usually the other way around. There is a difference between technical dynamic range and visible dynamic range. As much as some may think our numbers are inflated, marketing actually ( usually ) ends up falling on the visible side. To me the only important number is visible.. the amount of stops you can actually stuff in your image, subjective or not. I think Phil did a article a few years ago actually testing visible DR between the sensors.

Anyways... The comparison is much more telling than the numbers. It takes the subjectivity out of it.. If you shoot a chart shot with Monstro and Gemini and Helium and Komodo , all side by side, the difference between them, at least to me, is a much better reference than just counting the boxes.. When you compare the difference between you generally are equalizing your own subjectivity . your own definition of "ish" is measured across all.
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Typical scenario shooting with Komodo: low-light (practical lights) at ISO1600 at 6K for a 4K downsample. What would we end up in usable DR without getting tons of noise? Is 14-15 stops accurate or less?
 
Peter Fiorino said:
Jared!

Going out on a whim to ask if the phase detection auto focus will stack up to say a 1DX Mii Dual Pixel? Can’t wait wait for this cam :D
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That’s a good question, but we’ll probably have to wait till it’s out in the open to see an answer. It’s such an exciting time to be a cinematographer. So many tools with so many improvements being announced on (what seems like) a daily basis.
 
Jarred Land said:
Yup... and you are probably right.

Remember I created the RAVEN for a specific application as well.. Raven was supposed to be a small market lighter/cheaper camera for use on drones ( hence the name Raven ) but that camera quickly turned into an A camera darling for a lot of independents and side markets. It's becoming pretty apparent that Komodo is following the same path ... before it's even released.
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This is where I'm coming from. There are lots of people trying to "hack" production, reducing the number of people necessary for a shoot, lowering the carrying burden of a huge amount of gear.

I've organized a setup where I only have one bag of lenses, one case with the camera; all batteries; ND filters; mattebox and a hand rig together with a third bag for the tripod. All in all, I can move, by myself an entire lineup of equipment for a basic tripod/handheld shoot. But I still feel bound by the lack of ability to carry even more. I want to be able to have a small gimbal and a motion control slider within this setup and even though a DSMC2 is small, it's in the end quite big.

So Komodo is the answer to all of that as an A cam. Because of its size, it doesn't require gear that can carry heavier loads or power needs and because of internal ND's I won't have a need for the mattebox and ND filters. I could fit all my gear in one case, maybe even my lenses; then another bag with the tripod and slider. If the autofocus is working good enough I might not even have to have my follow focus for some shoots. It becomes the ultimate setup for small productions without ditching image quality. Previously we've only been able to choose between high-end image quality or less complicated shoots, but with Komodo, it combines both into one.

This is why I look at Komodo as an A-cam, even if its initial intention never was. Bigger cameras are often on productions with enough budget to just rent those cameras, while the world of owner-operators with Reds and Alexas are shrinking due to the competition from Sony and Blackmagic. So having a reasonably priced, small, lightweight Red that enables lighter gimbals and sliders while still being 6K at close to the same DR as regular Reds, is in my opinion, not a "complimentary camera", it's a straight A-cam for people like me. And I think it will sell like ice-cream on a hot day for that reason alone.
 
Darius Lyles said:
Jarred will Komodo have IPP2 and the ability to load LUT’s?
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That's a good question. it is so obvious I sure hope it has it.
Otherwise it would be just like DSMC1 single display Lemo port after the Red One had two. A little WTF.
 
Peter Fiorino said:
Jared!

Going out on a whim to ask if the phase detection auto focus will stack up to say a 1DX Mii Dual Pixel? Can’t wait wait for this cam :D
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Honestly... Not a chance... This is our first time with PDAF. Canon's been perfecting it for years. Luckily all PDAF falls in the same... ballpark but yeah I am willing to bet it will take us a few firmware updates to really get it right.
 
Christoffer Glans said:
This is where I'm coming from. There are lots of people trying to "hack" production, reducing the number of people necessary for a shoot, lowering the carrying burden of a huge amount of gear.

I've organized a setup where I only have one bag of lenses, one case with the camera; all batteries; ND filters; mattebox and a hand rig together with a third bag for the tripod. All in all, I can move, by myself an entire lineup of equipment for a basic tripod/handheld shoot. But I still feel bound by the lack of ability to carry even more. I want to be able to have a small gimbal and a motion control slider within this setup and even though a DSMC2 is small, it's in the end quite big.

So Komodo is the answer to all of that as an A cam. Because of its size, it doesn't require gear that can carry heavier loads or power needs and because of internal ND's I won't have a need for the mattebox and ND filters. I could fit all my gear in one case, maybe even my lenses; then another bag with the tripod and slider. If the autofocus is working good enough I might not even have to have my follow focus for some shoots. It becomes the ultimate setup for small productions without ditching image quality. Previously we've only been able to choose between high-end image quality or less complicated shoots, but with Komodo, it combines both into one.

This is why I look at Komodo as an A-cam, even if its initial intention never was. Bigger cameras are often on productions with enough budget to just rent those cameras, while the world of owner-operators with Reds and Alexas are shrinking due to the competition from Sony and Blackmagic. So having a reasonably priced, small, lightweight Red that enables lighter gimbals and sliders while still being 6K at close to the same DR as regular Reds, is in my opinion, not a "complimentary camera", it's a straight A-cam for people like me. And I think it will sell like ice-cream on a hot day for that reason alone.
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O I get it man... I get it. We just wrapped here last night in Miami and I can't tell you how excited Rintoul was when he was packed up ready to leave with 7 camera bodies in one carry on.

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I see that the Komodo will come in at least 2 colors...if not more.
 
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