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It's come to my attention that it might be useful to make a thread regarding Komodo's Power Options. The pandemic has had an impact on supply chains especially in certain states and countries. Also, I think it would be good to have this stickied for new owners.

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What's the Battery Mount on Komodo?

Komodo uses Canon BP-9 series batteries and features two battery slots.

You can use 1 or 2 batteries at the same time or even hot swap as needed.


Which Canon BP-9 Series Work with Komodo?

I have tested a bunch of stuff and am using both official Canon batteries as well as 3rd party batteries.

The models you want are:
Canon BP-975
Canon BP-955

Canon also made BP-915 batteries which are very small and lower capacity. Some vendors even still have new in box units out there and there are 3rd party options too.

Canon BP-9 series has been around for years and you'll find BP-945, 950, 970 iterations along the way with the newest models being the current version with the newest battery tech.


What's the difference between Canon and 3rd Party batteries?

Canon BP-9 series are chipped and do transfer power information to the Komodo brain correctly. Which can be seen on the top LCD screen with the battery indicators.

3rd Party Batteries most often aren't chipped and be weary of the cheapest options as the cells are usually not-so-great.

The key thing you are looking for is that they are 7.4 volt.


Who makes 3rd Party BP-9 Series Batteries?

I've tested some of these, but not all, here's a list nonetheless:

- RED REDVOLT BP (just announced and haven't tested, but gotta assume they work!)
- Hedbox
- Swit
- Blueshape (RED Certified)
- Jupio (RED Certified)
- Fxlion
- Watson
- Kastar
- Wasabi
- Hawkwoods

*personally I'd go with Canon or anyboy who does make a chipped battery to get that battery info passed to camera.


What Runtimes can I expect with BP-Series Batteries on Komodo?

Komodo is very low power draw, one of the best features of the camera. This isn't official from RED, but based on my testing of official Canon BP-9 Series you can expect:

- BP-975 - 130 minutes w/ 1 battery, 260 with two
- BP-955 - 90 minutes w/ 1 battery, 180 with two
- BP-915 - 40 minutes w/ 1 battery, 80 with two

BP-Series are longer in length to provide more power. So 975 are the longest, and not too long on Komodo really. 915 if you can find them are slender. 955 seems to be the perfect size for small rigging and long runtimes.


Can I use V-Mount or G-Mount Batteries on Komodo?

Yes! Via adapter plate or even via a D-Tap to DC-IN cable.

Various 3rd parties make adapter plates. Some are RED approved, or not, or are soon to be. And I can say safely there are more battery plates to come from 3rd parties and likely RED themselves.

Here's stuff I've tested that works:

- Wooden Camera (mounts via BP, uses cable to go through DC-IN, adjustable height)
- CoreSWX (transmits battery info and mounts via BP)
- Tilta (mounts via BP, batteries are sideways)


Why would anybody want to use V-Mount or G-Mount with Komodo?

The two most appealing things to me are longer camera run times and the typically power distribution of D-Tap or other ports on the battery mounts themselves to power accessories like external monitors for focus motors.

Plus there are very small 98Wh batteries that look "about right" in form factor for Komodo and even some of the 150 batteries don't make it too large.

Just to give you an example of the power I'm getting from V-Mounts and/or G-Mounts:
- Anton Bauer Dionic XT 150Wh - Nearly 6.5 hours
- Global Dynamics United 98Wh - A bit over 4 hours

The largest bricks I've used are 290 and 360 Wh. I haven't done full runtime tests, but that gets you between 12 and 14.5 hours, but those look ridiculous on Komodo due to their size :)

And those who have Anton Bauer VCLX larger block style batteries, yep, full charge you can run Komodo for about 23 hours and 15 minutes.


Actual Power Consumption?

Komodo 6K generally averages around a 25 watt draw, occasionally dipping below, and can go as high as 37 watts if you have all the things enabled. Generally for day to day shooting I'm getting that 25 watt number.
 
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Have any of your chipped 3rd party batteries shown power status ?

I’m using genuine BP-975s now and looking at genuine Anton Bauer Titon gold mounts since they’re tiny and use the mount I prefer.
 
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Have any of your chipped 3rd party batteries shown power status ?

I’m using genuine BP-975s now and looking at genuine Anton Bauer Titon gold mounts since they’re tiny and use the mount I prefer.

I'm not 100% certain, but pretty sure Hedbox transmits. Was doing more battery testing a bit ago. Might grab a few.

Honestly for most of what I do I've been rocking 98Wh V-Mounts, but that's just me.
 
Thank you for putting all this info together Phil!
Now I know where to direct anyone asking for power info on the baby Dragon!
 
It's come to my attention that it might be useful to make a thread regarding Komodo's Power Options. The pandemic has had an impact on supply chains especially in certain states and countries. Also, I think it would be good to have this stickied for new owners.

phfx_RED_Komodo_batteryFAQ.jpg



What's the Battery Mount on Komodo?

Komodo uses Canon BP-9 series batteries and features two battery slots.

You can use 1 or 2 batteries at the same time or even hot swap as needed.


Which Canon BP-9 Series Work with Komodo?

I have tested a bunch of stuff and am using both official Canon batteries as well as 3rd party batteries.

The models you want are:
Canon BP-975
Canon BP-955

Canon also made BP-915 batteries which are very small and lower capacity. Some vendors even still have new in box units out there and there are 3rd party options too.

Canon BP-9 series has been around for years and you'll find BP-945, 950, 970 iterations along the way with the newest models being the current version with the newest battery tech.


What's the difference between Canon and 3rd Party batteries?

Canon BP-9 series are chipped and do transfer power information to the Komodo brain correctly. Which can be seen on the top LCD screen with the battery indicators.

3rd Party Batteries most often aren't chipped and be weary of the cheapest options as the cells are usually not-so-great.

The key thing you are looking for is that they are 7.4 volt.


Who makes 3rd Party BP-9 Series Batteries?

I've tested some of these, but not all, but here's a list nonetheless:

- Hedbox
- Swit
- Blueshape
- Jupio
- Fxlion
- Kastar
- Wasabi

What Runtimes can I expect with BP-Series Batteries on Komodo?

Komodo is very low power draw, one of the best features of the camera. This isn't official from RED, but based on my testing of official Canon BP-9 Series you can expect:

- BP-975 - 130 minutes w/ 1 battery, 260 with two
- BP-955 - 90 minutes w/ 1 battery, 180 with two
- BP-915 - 40 minutes w/ 1 battery, 80 with two

BP-Series are longer in length to provide more power. So 975 are the longest, and not too long on Komodo really. 915 if you can find them are slender. 955 seems to be the perfect size for small rigging and long runtimes.


Can I use V-Mount or G-Mount Batteries on Komodo?

Yes! Via adapter plate or even via a D-Tap to DC-IN cable.

Various 3rd parties make adapter plates. Some are RED approved, or not, or are soon to be. And I can say safely there are more battery plates to come from 3rd parties and likely RED themselves.

Here's stuff I've tested that works:

- Wooden Camera (mounts via BP, uses cable to go through DC-IN, adjustable height)
- CoreSWX (transmits battery info and mounts via BP)
- Tilta (mounts via BP, batteries are sideways)


Why would anybody want to use V-Mount or G-Mount with Komodo?

The two most appealing things to me are longer camera run times and the typically power distribution of D-Tap or other ports on the battery mounts themselves to power accessories like external monitors for focus motors.

Plus there are very small 98Wh batteries that look "about right" in form factor for Komodo and even some of the 150 batteries don't make it too large.

Just to give you an example of the power I'm getting from V-Mounts and/or G-Mounts:
- Anton Bauer Dionic XT 150Wh - Nearly 6.5 hours
- Global Dynamics United 98Wh - A bit over 4 hours

The largest bricks I've used are 290 and 360 Wh. I haven't done full runtime tests, but that gets you between 12 and 14.5 hours, but those look ridiculous on Komodo due to their size :)

And those who have Anton Bauer VCLX larger block style batteries, yep, full charge you can run Komodo for about 23 hours and 15 minutes.


Hello Phil. Question: does the V Mount CXcoresw allows you to charge the battery from the camera without using a V-MOUNT Battery Charger?

What about the BP default to camera, do they get recharded if the camera is plugged?

Thanks! Just ordered my KOMODO today :)
 
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Hello Phil. Question: does the V Mount CXcoresw allows you to charge the battery from the camera without using a V-MOUNT Battery Charger?

What about the BP default to camera, do they get recharded if the camera is plugged?

Thanks! Just ordered my KOMODO today :)

I haven't seen the CoreSWX V-Mount adapter yet, though I tried to get one to test. So I don't know if it does charge.

The BPs will "trickle charge" through the brain it seems. I personally wouldn't rely on that concept as battery charger though.

You'll find far faster charge times with dedicated chargers.
 
Thanks Phil. Just was curious... For sure the proper chargers must be used...

What I love about BP from what I see (before shopping) is that I see the chargers are quite small... I wonder if there is a tiny v-mount charger to backpack travel with a couple of GlobalDynamicUnited compact v-mount batteries.

The V-Mount Charger to me is the only drawback so far for my " Travel Backpack" concept I am currently building with KOMODO.
 
Is there a fast and reliable charger for the canon BP-900 series that you recommend?

thanks
 
Just a heads up, I did see this fine print in the current operation guide page 15:

"WARNING: This product is designed to achieve optimum performance when used with genuine
Canon BP-955 and BP-975 batteries.
RED shall not be liable for any damage to this product and/or accidents such as malfunction, fire, etc.,
caused by the failure of non-genuine Canon batteries (e.g., a leakage and/or explosion of a battery pack).
Please note that repairs arising out of the malfunction of non-genuine batteries will not be covered by the
warranty for repairs.
Using the batteries with an incompatible battery charger or product may result in malfunction or accidents
for which RED cannot be held liable."
 
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tiny v-mount charger

Ah. I wish you could have seen the journey I undertook hunting down solutions when I was pairing down for travel..

Small V-Mount Chargers worth looking at:

- Bebob VS2MICRO (I have two of these when I travel)
- CoreSWX GPM-X2S (planning on grabbing 1 or 2 of these, might be the new goto)
- Dynacore DT-4S (Holds 4X GDU 98Wh V-Mounts, I use this at home those it's a bit odd and seems to have interesting behavior occasionally)

The first two there can handle compact and full size V-Mounts, the Dynacore is only for the small stuff as wider batteries won't fit all 4 slots.


Is there a fast and reliable charger for the canon BP-900 series that you recommend?

The best charger for BP is IMO the Dolgin Engineering TC400-TDM, which has 4 bays and can do power cycling and all that.

The rest out there are two bays. I have yet to test the Swit or the Hedbox chargers, but that would be next on my list to look at.

As with much of this stuff, good stuff costs more. But the cheapest chargers out there will indeed charge the batteries too.
 
Just a heads up, I did see this fine print in the current operation guide page 15:

"WARNING: This product is designed to achieve optimum performance when used with genuine
Canon BP-955 and BP-975 batteries.
RED shall not be liable for any damage to this product and/or accidents such as malfunction, fire, etc.,
caused by the failure of non-genuine Canon batteries (e.g., a leakage and/or explosion of a battery pack).
Please note that repairs arising out of the malfunction of non-genuine batteries will not be covered by the
warranty for repairs.
Using the batteries with an incompatible battery charger or product may result in malfunction or accidents
for which RED cannot be held liable."


This is exactly why I haven’t purchased any batteries yet but it is super tempting since canon BP batteries are no where to be found. Does anyone here know anything on when they might be back in stock?
 
Canon also made BP-915 batteries which are very small and lower capacity. Some vendors even still have new in box units out there and there are 3rd party options too.
- BP-915 - 40 minutes w/ 1 battery, 80 with two

Have you actually confirmed BP-915 working with the Komodo and running time of 40 minutes? Isn't the capacity only 1500 mAh meaning a running time of only 25-26 minutes?
 
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This is exactly why I haven’t purchased any batteries yet but it is super tempting since canon BP batteries are no where to be found. Does anyone here know anything on when they might be back in stock?

You likely need to sniff around because a few thousand people have been suddenly buying batteries, that and the pandemic have created a lean market. I try to not recommend retailers much, but Filmtools had BP-975s recently. Don't know about 955s.


Have you actually confirmed BP-915 working with the Komodo and running time of 40 minutes? Isn't the capacity only 1500 mAh meaning a running time of only 25-26 minutes?

Yes. The 2200mAh ones run for about 35-40 minutes. I don't have the 1500mAh ones here, but they should run for about 27 minutes max.

The only batteries I didn't do actual runtime tests on were things that lasted beyond 6-9 hours, because nobody got time for that :)


I should add one note, and it's an obvious one. If you are running monitors or other accessories via D-Tap or whatever port, bare in mind your battery life will be cut down. Specifically some of the ultra bright displays are fairly power hungry and produce a noticeable impact on battery runtimes, sometimes by like 1/2 even. Just something to think about when gearing up.

When I was posting those 150Wh bricks on my Komodo you'll notice I'm powering "stuff" too.

Pros and cons there. You either have to power those accessories individually and worry about all those batteries OR you go through a battery plate and deal with cables.
 
Ah. I wish you could have seen the journey I undertook hunting down solutions when I was pairing down for travel..

Small V-Mount Chargers worth looking at:

- Bebob VS2MICRO (I have two of these when I travel)
- CoreSWX GPM-X2S (planning on grabbing 1 or 2 of these, might be the new goto)
- Dynacore DT-4S (Holds 4X GDU 98Wh V-Mounts, I use this at home those it's a bit odd and seems to have interesting behavior occasionally)

The first two there can handle compact and full size V-Mounts, the Dynacore is only for the small stuff as wider batteries won't fit all 4 slots.




The best charger for BP is IMO the Dolgin Engineering TC400-TDM, which has 4 bays and can do power cycling and all that.

The rest out there are two bays. I have yet to test the Swit or the Hedbox chargers, but that would be next on my list to look at.

As with much of this stuff, good stuff costs more. But the cheapest chargers out there will indeed charge the batteries too.


Amazing Phil... Thanks for sharing the links... Suddenly things are coming together for the traveling plans :)
 
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