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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

KETCH ROSSi

Detlev Eller said:
... may i ask why?
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Because Detlev, even so you can always do a great job in post with color balancing your images, you want to try and avoid any color casts and making sure that your lights are properly calibrated to match the same Kelvin output is a great start to do that.

Same as with Flashes and Strobes in my Photography days, some Umbrellas claimed ot be perfect daylight balanced spectrum of Reflection, but I found that only the top were true to this, such as BRIESE, PROFOTO, and few others, but I always only stuck to this two.


Now with continuos lighting , I prefer LED, and HMI, but only when I can really get true 5600k out of them, other wise I toss them out... ;)



PS: I might be making a visit to Enchanted little Republic of San Marino... At last!!
 
... thanks Ketch ... ;) ...

guess I was just wondering why you do it and thougt it must be your artistic choice, a balance or a "process thing" ....

personally, i mix temperatures on occassion, basically using what i've got and rely on dialing in the right colors during finishing.

Cool you are visiting SM, i'll be there next week or so, so lets hook up in PM ... after almost 10 years in enchanted territory, my base right now is Berlin .... ;-)
 
Well, yes of course you can do so much in post this days, and mixing is fine when otherwise unavoidable, but when i can, I'll even replace an entire STREET of light bulbs to match... ;)


He he, funny, need to stop by Berlin as well, on my way to Munich... ;)

I'm currently traveling with my Beast in German License Plates, my SUV is officially not longer a California Vehicle but a German one, now I need to make the decision if making it Italian, or leaving it German, and registered in San Marino, to avoid Speeding tickets... ;)
 
brett ogden said:
This Thread is of Fire and you have not said what the announcement Is...;) HeHe
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On Face Book, they are a bit more active, so I imagine that once the announcement is made and the Face Book Page opened there will be much more activity there, justly so, even so it will have a LOT to do with RED... ;)
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Yes, true, I am getting told of other advantages and in fact some attorneys and Commercialist are looking in to possibly doing a Corporation for us there, need to see more carefully the proceedings, this is why I'm going to San Marino.
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well, i would gladly introduce you to a good person, extremely knowledgable and very well connected ... ;-) .... a certain "pintore" going by the name of ciaccaezetazetai .... ;) .... i have also heard of a certain production company, already setup with certain "license permissions" rarely granted .... actually only once and probably not again in that combination ... ;)) ... i think the owner of that company is very much into RED .... lol
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
I really need to do some serious tests on Epic to see which one gives better results, 300fps at 2k or 96fps @5k then slowed to 300fps in Post, of course if I need 4k, upscaling the 2k footage is already almost out of the question for me, but still I need to try it.
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I'd really like to see that test.
 
We have been testing this internally as well..

So far we have got 100FPS to 2000FPS... works well on most shots, except for things that cross in the foreground of the shot.
Pretty impressed so far....

Some of the GO PRO guys showed us. Very cool things.
 
There is a risk of going the post route for slowmo. Your test might look great and then when you shoot the real deal it might not work at all. So my tip would be to shoot 3k until you got a good take. Then switch to 5k and shoot some more. That way you do not have to trust luck.... and have a 3k backup route. After a while you might learn what shots work and so on, but then all of a sudden you get those small errors that where hard to foresee on set that just ruins it for you and needs advanced CG to be covered up.
 
Björn Benckert said:
There is a risk of going the post route for slowmo. Your test might look great and then when you shoot the real deal it might not work at all. So my tip would be to shoot 3k until you got a good take. Then switch to 5k and shoot some more. That way you do not have to trust luck.... and have a 3k backup route. After a while you might learn what shots work and so on, but then all of a sudden you get those small errors that where hard to foresee on set that just ruins it for you and needs advanced CG to be covered up.
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100% agree :)
 
Well the test I'll be doing will be done in one of the most professional environments, and by a crew of highly skilled pros, in their individual fields.

Its important not only that all is good at capture, but that the test is then continued at its best in post, and not only test on eProgram, but all available one to see which one yields the best results.

Ideally, I would love to avoid all together to have to buy Phantom Cameras, and also not ever shoot below the 5K resolution.... ;)
 
Are you exciting about 6k+? Talking with the major lens makers last weekend they were saying that most lens would have trouble with 6k, that perhaps they weren't' made/prepared for it. I am not sure of the exact reason but they made it sound like the higher K value rises, the less lenses will be supported.

I've seen small vignetting at 5k on my RED ZOOM 18-50mm. I assume what will happen at 6k is more vignetting? Maybe you could shed some light on the technical considerations of 6k+ in regards to lens mechanics?

Also, I feel in love with the Angenieux 24-290mm zoom this weekend, wondering what long lens optics makes you excited?
 
Yeah, definitely looking forward to the DRAGON 6K sensor, I want and need every extra MP of resolution and size increase on the sensor as I can get for my Frame Grabs... ;)


Lenses? I'll worry abut it once one of our Epic receives the upgrade, and start testing, but wil be actually the opposite as far as coverage, were the lenses that don't cover 5k now, could cover 5k later.
 
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