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Ketch + Epic + Canon Mount

Michael Hastings said:
Johnny, why couldn't you use the redmote for iris on canon or nikon electronic? After 25 years of Fujinon/Canon with pots/knobs wherever was convenient on the housing and almost 3 years of Canon control with switches where we need them, being limited to gears up at the front of the housing seems so 1970s :-).
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I was waiting for you to drop in here Mike....but to answer your question.....and you know this as well as anyone....action is taking place in front of you.....something passes above you....and you have to act FAST....where are your hands???? on the grips next to your focus & Iris knobs.....now it may be 1970's....but those are where my hands are and i can move my index finger out to rotate iris or focus with never having to move my head away from the action....now to do that with the redmote--even the easy access that Gates and you are making....i then have to remove my hand from the grips....look at what i'm rotating and then SET iris.....I have NO problem in an underwater studio setting like a feature or commercial, but a natural history shoot where you may have only ONE CHANCE at recording a memorable moment.....you need to move on it quickly, with precision and most important......(i think) to do so with motor skills you've been using all of the time and used to....which for me is reach for the focus/Iris control w/out missing a beat.
.....I'm not knocking using the redmote at all here...but just saying that is has it's applications or rather our type of shooting requires other tools. But that said, i can recall plenty of shoots where i have time to set the shot and set iris as you mention....but that's not the majority of the time on the nat. hist. shoots i'm on.
 
Jarred Land said:
Here is a list of Canon lenses that have been programed into the mount/ Epic Brain. ...
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Nice!

Do the EF-S lenses on this list give full 5K coverage on the Epic (notably the 17-55)?
 
Hi Trevor,

the 17-55 vignettes on the Epic :(
 
Jarred Land said:
Here is a list of Canon lenses that have been programed into the mount/ Epic Brain. These still need to be characterized for fine-tuned autofocus as they all have different motor speeds etc., but they are and will be functional out of the gate when the Canon mount ships.

Image Stabilization is functional on the entire stabilized lens lineup.


Canon EF 16-35/2.8L II USM
Canon EF 24-70/2.8L USM
Canon EF 70-200/2.8L IS USM
Canon EF 70-200/2.8L IS II USM
Canon EF 35/1.4L USM
Canon EF 50/1.2L USM
Canon EF 85/1.2L II USM
Canon EF 70-200mm 1:4 L USM
Canon 24-105mm 1:4 L IS USM
Canon 17-40mm 1:4 L USM
Canon EF 70-300mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 DO IS USM
Canon EF 100-400mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 IS USM
Canon EF 24mm f/2.8
Canon EF 35mm f/2
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
Canon EF-S 10-22/3.5-4.5 USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF-S 60/2.8 Macro USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF 200/2.8L II USM AF
Canon EF 28-300mm 1:3.5 - 5.6 L IS USM
Canon EF 180/3.5L Macro USM AF
Canon EF 300/2.8L IS USM AF
Canon EF 135/2.0L USM AF
Canon EF 300/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/5.6L USM AF
Canon EF 100/2.8L Macro IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/2.8L IS USM AF
Canon EF 35/1.4L USM AF
Canon EF 50/1.2L USM AF
Canon EF 500/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 600/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 85/1.8 USM AF
Canon EF 100/2.0 USM AF
Canon EF 135/2.8 AF SF (Soft Focus)
Canon EF 200/2.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/4.0DO IS USM AF
Canon EF 14/2.8L II USM AF
Canon EF 24/1.4L II USM AF
Canon EF 15/2.8 Fisheye AF
Canon EF 20/2.8 USM AF
Canon EF 28/1.8 USM AF
Canon EF 28/2.8 AF
Canon EF 50/2.5 Compact-Macro AF
Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Canon 50/1.4 EX DG HSM AF
Canon 85/1.4 EX DG HSM AF
Canon 20/1.8 EX DG ASP RF AF
Canon 24/1.8 EX DG ASP Macro AF
Canon 28/1.8 EX DG ASP Macro AF
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Holy crap, I can't even imagine how much work that was to get ready... that's awesome!
 
Johnny Friday said:
yep, got it.....i guess i have to use one to see how it works....and from the video i saw looks pretty spectacular...only some things like u/w i don't see how it would work w/out physical control to quickly change exposure. But maybe that's for another application....just hoping to have best of both worlds in a nikon mount....and RED may have an ear to that request......unless i'm a lone voice on that.
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Your not alone there Johnny. I think having a manual iris ring would be quite beneficial, especially in an u/w scenario. Totally agree that having iris & focus up by the handles is key.
But I dont want to hijack the thread, just lending some support to Señor Friday on his thoughts of a manual iris ring.
 
Jarred Land said:
Here is a list of Canon lenses that have been programed into the mount/ Epic Brain. These still need to be characterized for fine-tuned autofocus as they all have different motor speeds etc., but they are and will be functional out of the gate when the Canon mount ships.

Image Stabilization is functional on the entire stabilized lens lineup.


Canon EF 16-35/2.8L II USM
Canon EF 24-70/2.8L USM
Canon EF 70-200/2.8L IS USM
Canon EF 70-200/2.8L IS II USM
Canon EF 35/1.4L USM
Canon EF 50/1.2L USM
Canon EF 85/1.2L II USM
Canon EF 70-200mm 1:4 L USM
Canon 24-105mm 1:4 L IS USM
Canon 17-40mm 1:4 L USM
Canon EF 70-300mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 DO IS USM
Canon EF 100-400mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 IS USM
Canon EF 24mm f/2.8
Canon EF 35mm f/2
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
Canon EF-S 10-22/3.5-4.5 USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF-S 60/2.8 Macro USM AF (APS-C)
Canon EF 200/2.8L II USM AF
Canon EF 28-300mm 1:3.5 - 5.6 L IS USM
Canon EF 180/3.5L Macro USM AF
Canon EF 300/2.8L IS USM AF
Canon EF 135/2.0L USM AF
Canon EF 300/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/5.6L USM AF
Canon EF 100/2.8L Macro IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/2.8L IS USM AF
Canon EF 35/1.4L USM AF
Canon EF 50/1.2L USM AF
Canon EF 500/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 600/4.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 85/1.8 USM AF
Canon EF 100/2.0 USM AF
Canon EF 135/2.8 AF SF (Soft Focus)
Canon EF 200/2.0L IS USM AF
Canon EF 400/4.0DO IS USM AF
Canon EF 14/2.8L II USM AF
Canon EF 24/1.4L II USM AF
Canon EF 15/2.8 Fisheye AF
Canon EF 20/2.8 USM AF
Canon EF 28/1.8 USM AF
Canon EF 28/2.8 AF
Canon EF 50/2.5 Compact-Macro AF
Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Canon 50/1.4 EX DG HSM AF
Canon 85/1.4 EX DG HSM AF
Canon 20/1.8 EX DG ASP RF AF
Canon 24/1.8 EX DG ASP Macro AF
Canon 28/1.8 EX DG ASP Macro AF
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I'm speechless. That list is a dream come true, Jarred.
 
Tim Whitcomb said:
Canon mount, yeah OK cool... but look at those GUNS! Ladies and Gentleman, I give you the new James Bond! ~ Ketch Rossi! :)
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Ha ha, Tim, you might not be too far out... just kidding... Training hard, Doctors have no idea what I have in store for them, they said "NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT" too many times to the wrong guy... ;)

Then lifting the 3D rig, does that to your Guns, he he, but also training for an upcoming role I will be playing in one of my Movies, if I survive long in off... ;)



Matt Gottshalk said:
This thread needs more Italian female semi-nude hotties.

In 5k.
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Joe Carney said:
+1!!!!!
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.... And those are coming... Straight form the hottest Beaches of Italy... and some Bedrooms/Bathrooms too he he.



Lorenzo Straight said:
Can't wait to see what you shoot, Ketch.
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Thanks Lorenzo, we are prepping for a variety of stuff, not just HOT LADIES, to include also some very Italian stuff that happens daily,
like making Pizza, Cappucino in the morning, nice Beaches, Landscapes, Cityscapes, Tilt Shift, Precise Architecture, Tilt Shift Miniaturization effect etc.

We also are looking in to traveling out of Italy to Dubai and other Beautiful places if we can make it in time before the Venice Film Festival and IBC... ;)
 
The fact that you can use the Redmote Pro to focus these Canon lenses is so appealing. Looking forward to your comments on this Ketch and thanks for ALL of your input here on Reduser.
 
You fucking rock Ketch Rossi - RED , Jarred Jim Deanan, Graeme, Brent, Kelly, Sean,Madelline etc etc, etc all agree
that people like you (and them) make the world go round. keep on keeping on! I will somehow visit you in Italy in 2012!
 
Ketch,

So stoked for you with that Cannon Mount. So looking forward to seeing the images that you create!

Just out of interested, which Cannon lens do you have on your EPIC in the images and which lens are you testing the mount with???

:-)
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
I actually did some time ago, cause I needed a specific Zoom range that Canon did no made, but I tried exactly 9 Lenses before finding a good one, so since Sigma is a NO GO,
their quality control is way out of control, even so I admit I did had to change few Canon L series glasses as well.
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I learned a long time ago sigmas or any other alternative brand lenses are to be loved for what they are.
If you expect them to be a replacement for another more expensive lens you'll probably be disappointed.

My favorite lenses are not the sharpest or technically most perfect ones, but the ones that produce the most interesting imagery.
It might look soft on the corners, exhibit extreme flaring, weird patterns on the bokeh, coma, vignetting or even have light leaks, but sometimes that's what makes the pictures that come out of it interesting.

My sigma 20mm 1.8 is a good example. I hate that lens.
It's way too soft, has that weird focus clutch thingy and wide open is almost 1.5 stops darker on the corners, making it probably a 2.8 anywhere away from dead center...
I've wanted to get rid of it lots of times and then something beautiful comes out of it and I just hang on.
And now each time I stick it on I go in wondering how it might surprise me :)
 
Lorenzo Straight said:
Man, you are living the life we all want to live. Rock'On bubby.
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Not an easy one but a Beautiful one for sure Lorenzo... ;)


David Baumber said:
The fact that you can use the Redmote Pro to focus these Canon lenses is so appealing. Looking forward to your comments on this Ketch and thanks for ALL of your input here on Reduser.
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My pleasure David, I wil be sure not to disappoint and post a detailed review of the mount and my opinion of it on Epic with the use of Canon glass, which I have been using for well over 25 years now... ;)


Tim Whitcomb said:
You fucking rock Ketch Rossi - RED , Jarred Jim Deanan, Graeme, Brent, Kelly, Sean,Madelline etc etc, etc all agree
that people like you (and them) make the world go round. keep on keeping on! I will somehow visit you in Italy in 2012!
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Ha ha, Tim, you really are now putting me in a position of needing to Deliver some great stuff here, thanks for the pressure, he he.

Come buddy, come to Italy any time as you do have a friend here, not just a colleague... ;)

Luis de la Cerda said:
I learned a long time ago sigmas or any other alternative brand lenses are to be loved for what they are.
If you expect them to be a replacement for another more expensive lens you'll probably be disappointed.

My favorite lenses are not the sharpest or technically most perfect ones, but the ones that produce the most interesting imagery.
It might look soft on the corners, exhibit extreme flaring, weird patterns on the bokeh, coma, vignetting or even have light leaks, but sometimes that's what makes the pictures that come out of it interesting.

My sigma 20mm 1.8 is a good example. I hate that lens.
It's way too soft, has that weird focus clutch thingy and wide open is almost 1.5 stops darker on the corners, making it probably a 2.8 anywhere away from dead center...
I've wanted to get rid of it lots of times and then something beautiful comes out of it and I just hang on.
And now each time I stick it on I go in wondering how it might surprise me :)
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Totally with you Luis,

and that I knew, just that I lost patience with testing and waiting for the Fedex truck so many times for the same lens... ;)

But now I might find myself in that position again with one of their biggest Zoom lenses, we'll see.


Steve Johnson said:
Ketch,

So stoked for you with that Cannon Mount. So looking forward to seeing the images that you create!

Just out of interested, which Cannon lens do you have on your EPIC in the images and which lens are you testing the mount with??? :-)
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Thanks Steve,
in the pictures I have the all time favorite, the EF 85mm f/1.2L II and the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II.

So I wil be testing them plus the EF 17-40mm f/4L, which is still the sharpest wide Zoom, even sharper then the second generation EF 16-35mm f/2.8L, but when speed is
needed you need to turn to the 16-35, unless of course you go Primes, then the EF 14mm f/2.8L II and EF 35mm f/1.4L (still the king) are better choice, I will also be
testing the sharpest of them all in the wide range, then we'l make use of the 1.4x EF Extender II (Teleconverter) with both Super telephoto Zoom as well as wide for particular
DOF effect, the TS-E 24mm f/3.5 L II, which I will be using for its main intended purpose, Architectural, and the creation of strait lines, as well as some special effect stuff,
like Miniaturization, Focus shifting extreme close ups, with the use of a 500D Lens, and of course like Isolated body parts...

Not telling which ones, but you know I keep it clean, but something got to show... ;)
 
Thanks for that "information overload" Ketch :-)

I know your on top of things...
 
Since there are so many posts in this thread, once more to guarantee the request is not hidden under the noise, is it possible to get the Canon EF 800mm/f5.6L IS USM AF to the list of Epic supported lenses? Please .... :-)
 
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