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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

It begins, rumors of 4k camera challengers.

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I would really love to get my camera design out, if I could find a seriouse dealer with the money to take it over. I have now adapted a lot of old techniques I have come up with over the last 14 years. It is a uniquely elegant design direction, overturning many paradigms, as per ussual, 8k 3d cinema usable image should be possible. The lens system would potentially include from fisheyed to high zoom in a wide format under 1 inch in length. The post processed data rates, a fraction of uncompressed 8k 12 bit. A true revolutionary camera technology compared to Lytro, with post depth of field processing at reduced data. It is so far out there that many here will not believe it could produce cinema usable images. Not many would be able to get their heads around it to work on it's design. It is one of the ones everybody is waiting for, I have the other one, but that is more theoretical and complex.
 
The sumo wrestler has been poked ( by RED ) and is awakening slowly.

This should be a very interesting NAB.
Captured unicorn / Sony NEX fs700 is interesting, lets see what it captures to as far as compression. C300 killer ?

The Reduser forum will not be the place to discuss these things obviously.
 
Phil Holland said:
I totally agree. The ability to reach into say ISO 50 or even 25 territory would be amazing.
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Hmmm. I just spent 20 minutes composing a reply to Bettsy in Melbourne, and it's disappeared into the ether.
This one worked, so it must have just been a glitch. Well I'm not going to go through all that again....
 
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Emanuel A. said:
This has been news since March 31... but a lot can't believe it:

https://vimeo.com/39541733
http://www.eoshd.com/content/7727/j...lter-from-5d-mark-iii-for-resolution-increase
http://twitter.com/#!/millerandmiller/status/186085781683703809/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#!/millerandmiller
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Well, I do now :)

Anyone want to try that with a RED MX sensor?

Or maybe I'll try that next time we rent an Alexa :)

"The bad news is that we got curious took your camera apart and took some bits out. The good news is that your pics are sharper now! Just tell the next renter he shouldn't point it at any fine patterned shirts."

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
It is about time someone validated the future. Now... as long as they also validate RAW and high frame rates, plus upgradeability at a reasonable price... we have competition. Until then... not so much.

Jim
 
Remember that 5K is 60+% more information than 4K.

Every time you buy a camera that goes obsolete... it costs you money (imagine the C300). I'll be nervous when someone actually beats what we are doing... not matches what the RED ONE did. But without RAW.

So... going into NAB, the mark is 5K at 120fps RAW with an upgrade path. Measure all the new entries against this.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Remember that 5K is 60+% more information than 4K.

Every time you buy a camera that goes obsolete... it costs you money (imagine the C300). I'll be nervous when someone actually beats what we are doing... not matches what the RED ONE did. But without RAW.

So... going into NAB, the mark is 5K at 120fps RAW with an upgrade path. Measure all the new entries against this.

Jim
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They all lose!

See you in Vegas Sir.
 
Jannard said:
Remember that 5K is 60+% more information than 4K.

Every time you buy a camera that goes obsolete... it costs you money (imagine the C300). I'll be nervous when someone actually beats what we are doing... not matches what the RED ONE did. But without RAW.

So... going into NAB, the mark is 5K at 120fps RAW with an upgrade path. Measure all the new entries against this.

Jim
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Jim, I wish it worked that way, but on the low end, a $2k shd camera will do the job (just light and control properly) no special rig, no decoder card, no16 bit, noraw, no colorisation steps needed, 10 times the sales. People are interesting sheep, interested in shiny things. A superior $5k raw camera that also lays a mean h264 or MPEG 2 track, to hand off at the end of a contract session or to broadcast studio, would be an obvious choice even over such an $2k camera built down to a price. Of course they don't want to do that, how would they sell their more expensive or $2k cameras. Eventualy, most people that want a 4/5k raw X for the price will have one. Panasonic is mad to me, they should have made gh2 higher framerate or resolution in video, at least a shd gh3.

From conversations I understand you were not able to make the fixed at that price, but there are many ways to skin the cat, with wavelet compression or without compression (just eyeing 500megabytes a second sata drives last week) and compressed for archive afterwards.

At the same time, I see the usefullness and the threat of cheaper fixed and s35 cameras, but all we needed was a cheaper weather sealed 4k/shd camera with detachable auto/manual lens, even s16. But I appreciate the usefulness of the Epic parts use in the X.
 
Where was it the 31st when that low pass 5d, some parts of the world reach April the first first?
 
Les Dittert said:
The sumo wrestler has been poked ( by RED ) and is awakening slowly.

This should be a very interesting NAB.
Captured unicorn / Sony NEX fs700 is interesting, lets see what it captures to as far as compression. C300 killer ?

The Reduser forum will not be the place to discuss these things obviously.
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But about how it relates to Red is in off topic subforum.
 
Wayne Morellini said:
He, he, funny that this low pass filter only effects the lower resolution video, didn't know they have flip away low pass filters now like the ND ones. :-)
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They should have used a proper chart. Fact is if you can't see aliasing, then you're either not in focus or you're not presenting the camera with enough fine detail. Showing an image with no aliasing is therefore not testing anything, and with such a tricky job to remove the filter you "just know" that every single possible aspect that could effect image sharpness was "utterly identical" between the shots, don't you.

Graeme
 
Jim isn't making products for sheep Wayne. He very deliberately chose to serve a niche market instead of a larger consumer market. You seem to be forgetting that.

Wayne Morellini said:
Jim, I wish it worked that way, but on the low end, a $2k shd camera will do the job (just light and control properly) no special rig, no decoder card, no16 bit, noraw, no colorisation steps needed, 10 times the sales. People are interesting sheep, interested in shiny things. A superior $5k raw camera that also lays a mean h264 or MPEG 2 track, to hand off at the end of a contract session or to broadcast studio, would be an obvious choice even over such an $2k camera built down to a price. Of course they don't want to do that, how would they sell their more expensive or $2k cameras. Eventualy, most people that want a 4/5k raw X for the price will have one. Panasonic is mad to me, they should have made gh2 higher framerate or resolution in video, at least a shd gh3.
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