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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Is it possible to build your own Mac Pro?

I don't even know how much I like this discussion of the osx86 project. It's one of those grey areas that may not be a fantastic thing to discuss around here.
 
Is it legal to install a copy of OSX you have paid for on a PC? I’d say that could be a grey area. To discuss the concept? Surely that’s okay.
 
It is not legal. There is currently no legal way to obtain an Intel version of the Mac OS without buying a new Intel Mac. They do not sell a boxed copy of the Intel version... only the PPC version.

Furthermore, installing Mac OS X on a non-Apple system breaches the use agreement.

So in order for Mac OS X to be installed on a PC, it must be downloaded illegally or installed on a computer other than the one that it shipped with [which is also illegal]. Then the legal agreement between you and Apple must be broken.

So yeah. It's illegal. Twice.

Please use good judgement, guys. I've locked enough threads this week.
 
Hi Brook

I had no intention of brining the forum into disrepute; I just think it’s an interesting time for computers at the moment. Apple Macs are now (by definition) PCs. I don’t think the OSx86 project actually threatens Apple in any way, as OSX doesn’t have the driver catalogue to be run on other hardware. Besides, it goes against the Apple selling point of simplicity.

I’m not an Apple, Windows, or Linux fan. I use all three every day (and yes, every computer running OSX is in a silver case with an Apple engraved on the side and has all the license paperwork to match).

I’m not sure why I ended up posting in this thread; I’m more worried about how 4K looks when it’s on the edge of being sharp without grain to soften it. Cookes and a hint of smoke maybe?
 
Don't worry man, I'm not concerned.

As for softening 4K, I'm sure people will test a hundred different things when footage starts to creep out from the cameras when they ship.
 
I work since over 25 years with computers and my choice for the very best computer system is very simple:

1. It has to serve me and not I have to serve the machine
2. I want spend time on my work and not on the configuration of the comp

Now you may guess on which comps I work day and night...
 
Irri said:
Is it legal to install a copy of OSX you have paid for on a PC? I’d say that could be a grey area. To discuss the concept? Surely that’s okay.
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im.thatoneguy said:
Or... and I wouldn't suggest this because it's technically illegal... you build a normal 8+ core PC and install OSX using this program that may or may not exist.
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:)
 
Brook Willard said:
So in order for Mac OS X to be installed on a PC, it must be downloaded illegally or installed on a computer other than the one that it shipped with [which is also illegal]. Then the legal agreement between you and Apple must be broken.
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That is true... but Apple has licensed OSX to other hardware partners before...

http://www.gvs9000.com/gvs90004u1.html

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
You don't need that overpriced overhyped version of Steve Job's attempt at a window manager.

Really Linux will do pretty well anything you need. Well ILM thinks so anyway. BTW I'm kinda toying with this puppy:

http://tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=496

About $800. It will support the Barcelona Quads we'll be getting soon. Make a nice 16 core render station, I'll maybe do SAN to my edit box running Cineralla. Cinerella likes a bunch of 64 bit machines to run on ;). I have ILM's OpenEXR and CTL stuff up and soon I'll be dangerous.
 
I like Linux...

Too bad it doesn't run 97% of the software I need to use for both my own internal purposes as well as serving clients' needs. Even ILM can't run everything they need off of Linux boxes. Linux systems make perfect sense as part of a complete workflow solution, especially in larger shops with enough IT backing to support several platforms. But as a complete end-to-end solution, Linux is severely lacking. It's not an OS thing, it's an application support thing.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
I like Linux...

Too bad it doesn't run 97% of the software I need to use for both my own internal purposes as well as serving clients' needs. Even ILM can't run everything they need off of Linux boxes. Linux systems make perfect sense as part of a complete workflow solution, especially in larger shops with enough IT backing to support several platforms. But as a complete end-to-end solution, Linux is severely lacking. It's not an OS thing, it's an application support thing.
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I am aware that there is no real widespread support for a Linux workflow. I am kibitzing to some extent but considering the thread I thought I'd jump in.

The tools for dealing with video in Linux are extensive. They are pretty well all command line though. I'm coming from computers to video production so my skill set is really computers.

I'm actually here to learn, and if the right person dies, to buy one of these wonderful cameras.
 
luki said:
That is true... but Apple has licensed OSX to other hardware partners before...

http://www.gvs9000.com/gvs90004u1.html

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
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I'm a fan of both windows and osx, but I can say that I'd buy osx as soon as it is released if they sold a version that would run on PCs with official support from companies for drivers.
 
kinobairn said:
I'm a fan of both windows and osx, but I can say that I'd buy osx as soon as it is released if they sold a version that would run on PCs with official support from companies for drivers.
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I kind of hate em' both. Got tired of windose about NT 3.51 and the Mac OS was so pitiful then it was beneath contempt, no multiuser no memory management. Then Steve grabbed FreeBSD and hacked up a Mach interpreter so it could do some of legacy Mac stuff and built Darwin as a *nix window manager and called it OS X.

Ah I could go on but I will spare you all ;).
 
Here we go again; my usual disclaimer, I use all three but.... you make osx sound like a barely working frankenstein. Whatever !
-A
 
PenGun said:
Ah I could go on but I will spare you all ;).
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Yes, thank you for not doing that... Especially since you seem to have a few of your facts skewed a bit. You might want to double check the relationship between OSX and BSD and how and when the BSD mach kernel implementation actually came to be. OSX has much deeper roots in NextStep / OpenStep.


Actually, you know what. I'm just going to lock this one down before it turns into yet another which OS is better argument. It's already there, just most of us here are too level-headed to actually argue about it. Nothing against you directly PenGun, it's obvious you really like Linux and I respect that. But you're going to find that most people on these forums stay more mainstream and that has nothing to do with them being against Linux or favoring one OS over another. It's a question of choosing the most effective tool for the job at hand. Sometimes that best tool is a Linux box... But we don't need to resort to the usual rhetoric of specific platform superiority, because it just isn't so, no matter which platform you're championing. I personally could rant about every OS out there and their related shortcomings. I've got a pretty long list for Linux, just as long as my lists for Windows, Solaris, OSX and Irix.

If you want to carry on about Linux... Or if anyone else wants to carry on about their favorite OS of choice, take it over to alt.os.mine.is.bigger or some place like that.
 
OK... Thread open again per request from a few users.
 
we just got a few more weeks til cameras start rolling and the board has been kinda quiet...except here. :)

after doing a dream build, speccing out how much it would cost to get a mac fully loaded with what i want (and i'm a died-in-the-wool mac guy), i realized i better start thinking about other options. especially knowing i'm about to drop some serious change on my red...
 
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