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iPad 3

I think people are taking the whole "post-PC" thing a bit too literal. Apple can call it what they want (marketing), but they're not misleading or stretching the truth. The desktop PC or similar is no longer a requirement in ones computing tasks. And when it comes to the direction Apple is heading, sure they are trying to lead the charge, but Microsoft is right there with them. In some ways, Microsoft has already beat them to the punch with a few key implementations and features. Microsoft's cloud services are already more capable and robust. Windows 8 is very evolved and will release with full support for ARM and Intel architectures. The new interface is highly geared toward touch devices and mobile use, tablets, notebooks, etc.. This is where it's all headed.... Call it what you will.

Apple will continue to make computers. They will transition more products to the ARM platform, no doubt. iOS and OSX will eventually merge. The Mac Pro is not on the chopping block as many people seem to fear, at least not yet. It is one of their primary Intel products that is probably not anywhere close to the chopping block at this time. Jobs wanted Apple products to be just as much a part of media creation as they are a part of consumption. Without a product like the Mac Pro, this will not be entirely possible. On the other hand, I do agree with Cioni and a lot of others -- the Mac Pro's lifeline is finite and the writing is on the wall. The days of large tower workstations are drawing to a close. This is not just for Apple, but for many PC vendors. There is only so much of a market for them and at some point it will be difficult for the industry to sustain such configurations as off-the-shelf products. In the very near future (actually even now to a certain degree), devices like the iPad are powerful enough to satisfy the computing needs of many. The future of mainstream computing is not cramming 2 or 4 or more Xeon CPUs, sucking 130W or more each, into a large desk-side tower. Intel knows this, look at what they are doing to their CPU lines. They are gradually migrating to the the "system-on-a-chip" philosophy. The Sandy Bridge Xeon-E5 that just released is a great example. Intel has migrated more functionality, including the PCIe host, onto the CPU. This trend will continue. Ultimately the Intel x86 offerings will probably see a unification across the line and increased similarity. Not the current mobile, desktop and workstation/server segregation. The future of computing is more modular, even cellular or nodal in nature. If you need a massive render farm or massively parallel database server, the options will be there to build one. But for most, the desktop PC will migrate from that box on your desk to a dock where you set your phone or your tablet. Tablets, mostly the iPad, are replacing notebook computers everywhere. For business and personal use... In another couple years when optical media is irrelevant, solid state storage is big and cheap and low-power processors manufactured at 18nm process are several times more powerful than what Apple just dropped into the new iPad, do you think people are going to want a "computer" taking up space on their desk?

In many ways, this really is a revolution, or a massive evolutionary shift. Call it what you will... Microsoft and most PC users are not going to call it a "post-PC" revolution or anything like that. To them, that is segregating products by maker... To many, a tablet is still a PC. Why should a personal computer not be a "PC", just because it can fit in a pocket? What's more personal than that, if you think about it? This trend, whatever you call it, I think most of us saw coming at some level if we just think about how computing technology progresses. Where it is ultimately headed, I don't think anyone can say and several large players have their own differing ideas about this. Personally, I think Microsoft and Apple both have it right and are going in similar but somewhat different directions. I'm not so sure what to make of Android from a long-term perspective, same with Linux. With the jaws of Apple patent claims and the high probability that Windows 8 is going to be a smash hit, I'm not sure if Android has what it takes to survive the long term... Where will it be in a decade from now? Not to mention that Microsoft, and Apple to an even bigger extent, both want Android terminated with extreme prejudice.
 
Jeff, I love your insight and perspectives...

The "god" has spoken -- I decided.
 
I would love to see a HD-SDI to iPad adapter or HDMI to iPad. Would be nice to use an iPad on The Epic for focuswork and extra monitor.
 
Ah, can't you feel the smug satisfaction coming from these boards? Rightfully so I might add. Can't wait to show of all my 4/5K material to potential clients on an iPad3 :)

Eren,

Totally agree. Even better, Adobe, in my opinion, is kickin some major butt right now. They posted the Vanity Fair workflow video and it talks to advertisers now being able to drop in VIDEO commercials into the digital version of the mag.

With products like EnDesign and the whole Creative Suite, I think there is more opportunity than ever to profit from the efficient workflows.

Interestingly, they talk about how much better the images look on the tablets than in print. I remember Jarred posting many early examples of motion stills that illustrated this point.

Its a good time to be us right now...

http://www.adobe.com/solutions.html
 
Lots of high-density panels were shown at CES. No need to hamstring an iPad into being a monitor -- although, with the right software tools (liveplay, teradek, etc..) we could see increased resolution options. The system should now lend itself just fine to 2K/1080p over the 720p we've had. We'll see lots of high-res monitors at NAB this year.
 
To many, a tablet is still a PC. Why should a personal computer not be a "PC", just because it can fit in a pocket?

Agreed. An iPhone (or any other smart phone) by definition is a PC. Adoption of personal computing is growing at an exponential rate. It's not being phased out.
 
I think it's great to see a small device like the iPad with higher resolution.

I was at the local Costco (large volume retail store in the US) and saw a 70" Full HD TV at 1080p for a pretty penny. I just thought to myself,"Wow, the new iPad has better resolution."

I have to admit, I didn't think 1080p on a 70" screen looked very sharp.
 
I'll get one if I can encode something at 2048x1536 ( full screen ) at a decent h264 bitrate and play the media at 24fps on it.
Can this be done ?
Otherwise I'll stick with my old one.

Looks like 1080p is the max for video's currently - though no mention on the bitrate for h.264's just the profile.

Apple's Tech Specs said:
Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
 
Looks like 1080p is the max for video's currently - though no mention on the bitrate for h.264's just the profile.

Who knows, 2K horizontal pixels may work in the Apple video section, maybe not since it's not a standard 'consumer' resolution. Nothing stopping someone from making their own video player though...
 
Who knows, 2K horizontal pixels may work in the Apple video section, maybe not since it's not a standard 'consumer' resolution. Nothing stopping someone from making their own video player though...


I wonder if the iPad3 can playback RedRay ... we might need an app for that. ;)
 
Post PC is shorthand for, screw you, no we're not gonna release a new Mac Tower. ever.

play with this shiny bauble instead.

sadly, like all children, I'm madly drawn toward the bauble and will buy one.

Your point about baubles is valid. But $50 says we will have a new Macpro tower this tear.
 
I would like to believe "the god" (*snicker*) is right when he says that the Mac Pro isn't on the chopping block, but when I hang out at the Apple store (usually waiting for someone to check me out for another hard drive which I need in a hurry), I eavesdrop on what the customer base is saying. Really, with the specs and the price point of the iMac, Apple has very little motivation to upgrade its tower. It is becoming a niche market in a hurry. The only people who seem to care about new towers are RED users, because we need more speed, more slots, and more throughput. For just about every application, the iMac seems to be adequate. Time for RED to start building more efficient enclosures for their cards...I'm sick of waiting on Apple for anything supportive of RED products. Oddly, this iPad is the first thing in a long time which really, however inadvertantly, caters to a RED workflow. I believe Jobs had a commitment to content providers, but I'm not so convinced that "content providers" refers to the high-end as much as it does the cloud, populated by non-professionals shooting their piano-playing cats and calling it content.

It is the best of times, it is the worst of times to be a content provider. Definitely most interesting times.....
 
It's really quite easy. Let's talk massively parallel. I need to be able to text my wife, check my email and watch youtube: one ipad thingie/device. done.

I need to do all of that and some graphics work, hook two ipad/thingies together. done.

I need that and I need to do some high end CAD work. Shove another ipad/thingie into the third slot on my box of goodies. done.

I want some scientific analysis, structural materials FEA, shove another "thingie" into the box.

I really see that with the power of the pieces adding up, there will be one "processor" "thingie".

You just kluge them up to answer your processing needs eventually.

While I think Jeff K is really something else, I wouldn't give him god status. There is too much pressure on gods. let's just say "om mani padme, Jeff!"
 
No, no it isn't. The fact of the matter is that a majority of people with use tablets and smartphones as their main computing device well before your prediction of 4K home delivery takes place. I wouldn't be surprised if people in the west already spend more time on their smartphones/tablets than they do their laptops/desktops...

At least in terms of the web, mobile app usage (not mobile browser usage, although that might be included) now exceeds web usage in general.

Mobile apps have completely taken over in terms of time spent, and are still trending up.
 
In many ways, this really is a revolution, or a massive evolutionary shift. Call it what you will... Microsoft and most PC users are not going to call it a "post-PC" revolution or anything like that. To them, that is segregating products by maker... To many, a tablet is still a PC. Why should a personal computer not be a "PC", just because it can fit in a pocket? What's more personal than that, if you think about it? This trend, whatever you call it, I think most of us saw coming at some level if we just think about how computing technology progresses. Where it is ultimately headed, I don't think anyone can say and several large players have their own differing ideas about this. Personally, I think Microsoft and Apple both have it right and are going in similar but somewhat different directions. I'm not so sure what to make of Android from a long-term perspective, same with Linux. With the jaws of Apple patent claims and the high probability that Windows 8 is going to be a smash hit, I'm not sure if Android has what it takes to survive the long term... Where will it be in a decade from now? Not to mention that Microsoft, and Apple to an even bigger extent, both want Android terminated with extreme prejudice.

There's a big difference in approach between Microsoft and Apple. Apple calls it "Post PC" and Microsoft calls it "PC Plus" for a good reason. Intel will supply its final CPUs to Apple in 2013. From there on out, the idea of a bleeding edge x86 Apple PC will cease to exist, replaced by many core ARM systems. NVIDIA's Project Denver combines 8 Cortex-A15 64-biy cores with a Maxwell GPU with similar performance to a GTX 550. Will have to wait for 20nm fabs though, probably late 2013, early 2014. I would expect Apple to implement similar SoCs - multiple Cortex-A15 cores and PowerVR Rogue very soon to replace Intel. This will enable sleeker devices, far higher margins for Apple, but the performance will only be comparable to a Kentsfield CPU from 2006. Good news is that is "good enough" for common applications and the cloud is becoming ever more important. But Intel and AMD CPUs will be in a different league in terms of raw performance and Windows continues to embrace x86 as well as ARM, across hundreds of hardware partners.

Of course, Windows on ARM notebooks will come much sooner, as early as Christmas 2012. By 2012 Microsoft will have Windows 8, Windows on ARM, Windows Phone 8, a new interface for Xbox 360, with Xbox Durango coming a few months later - all of the above will share the same kernel, the same interface and tightly connected by cloud, NFC or network. That's a complete unification across all platforms before the New New iPad is out. Apple's shift to ARM and iOS X has to happen very, very soon. Apple also have to respond to Kinect which is perhaps the biggest part of the PC Plus era. Touch is cool, but touchless and natural user interfaces are revolutionary.
 
So I may be way off base here, but wouldn't an iPad 3 be the ultimate field monitor/ controller for a Red camera? For $500 you'd get a much higher resolution display than anything currently in the Red store, with a nine hour battery AND a touchscreen big enough to have quite a few "spare" controls around your full 2k image (i.e. without overlays). If we really want to dream, if Red released a version of their wavelet decoder for the iPad as part of the controller software you could even get your 2K image and control to the iPad wirelessly (back of the envelope calculation).

Holy crap that would be cool!

Even if Red decided to charge $400 for this software the end result would be so much better than anything else I've ever seen.

- ben

P.S. If you're going to shatter this little dream with logic, please be gentle. :blush:
 
Apple's new iPad will have a 2048 x 1536 resolution screen, 3.1 million pixels. 1080P too.
I chuckled at this resolution spec, because (coincidentally!) it's very close to Kodak's original Cineon spec of 2048x1556 for the original 35mm film 2K scans, circa 1992.

Note that, while the display has lots of resolution, bear in mind that gamma specs, brightness range, black detail, and color settings are not adjustable, to my knowledge. Don't consider the iPad to be a reliable display device -- it's a casual reference at best, like a pair of $20 speakers. The pictures you see on the iPad could bear absolutely no relation to what you see in editing, in color correction, on TV, or in theaters. In fact, it will probably not precisely match another iPad, either.

I have no problem with people using it to check focus, headroom, performance, and stuff like that. And it's an ideal place to store operating manuals, when you can't remember where a certain menu is (which has come in handy for me on occasion).

It's really quite easy. Let's talk massively parallel. I need to be able to text my wife, check my email and watch youtube: one ipad thingie/device. done. I need to do all of that and some graphics work, hook two ipad/thingies together. done. I need that and I need to do some high end CAD work. Shove another ipad/thingie into the third slot on my box of goodies. done.
Can't you just do this right now on a high-end laptop, only much faster and better? Or am I just crazy?

To me, the iPad is just a very nice content consumption device. I'm still very skeptical of its practical use for editing, mixing, color correction, image adjustment, or even basic writing. I know of some computer magazine writers who've given up on using the iPad for serious writing, just because beyond a page or two, a virtual keyboard just doesn't make it. And if you add a bluetooth keyboard... it sorta/kinda resembles a laptop at some point.

I think for serious use, it makes a lot more sense just to get a full-tilt MacBook Air. Use an iPad for casual stuff -- showing demos to clients, rough cuts to directors, taking notes on the set, sending emails, web browsing, grabbing stills. All that stuff is fine. And it also works well as a remote control for certain devices. I also think it's one of the best book-reading devices in the world, and that'll be huge for certain applications (particularly heavy textbooks and manuals).
 
Screen

Resolution bump is very good. 260 PPI is pretty okay for this development stage.
30% gamut increase over iPad 2's 60% of sRGB is a nice bump as well. Having a rudimentary UI based on swiping icons around is not only limiting but already outdated.

"Post PC"

Personal usage of computing devices consists mostly of multimedia, web browsing, communication, social networking & using digital documents.
This is what is available today on a device which is much more portable than a laptop. Turning on and depending on "the computer" i.e. larger unit and less practical unit for these tasks, will become much more rare. For specialized purposes and more complex tasks, a typical "PC", either a laptop or an evolved version of a desktop, will always provide more expandability, power and productivity. For everything else devices like these are here to stay.

"Invisible technology"

Smart thinking. Screen goes with that thinking.
1.46 pounds/662 grams and a metal case for a device with this purpose...goes less with "invisible".

Book reading

Either Apple Marketing & PR is missing or withholding information.
Resolution is not the only factor essential for ability to spend long hours reading on an electronic display, with minimal negative effect on the eyes.

Factors which still make book reading totally unhealthy for the eyes:
- low refresh rate > affecting the optical nerve, eye movement and natural blinking function
- reflective surface > affecting cornea function
- poor contrast requiring higher brightness than a printed paper > affecting the iris
- all of those factors combined tiring the eyes

"The future"

When it comes to computing devices..."modular" and "distributed" factors are a reasonable choice.
Moving towards nature's laws and principles is a logical direction.

In Apple's case it is already known that high PPI displays are in the works for notebooks. I wouldn't be surprised if the next step for Apple notebooks would be dual Retina displays, ditching the built in optical drive and physical keyboard, with introduction of high-ppi multitouch surface for desktops, replacing or complementing current keyboard.
 
I'm not so sure what to make of Android from a long-term perspective, same with Linux. With the jaws of Apple patent claims and the high probability that Windows 8 is going to be a smash hit, I'm not sure if Android has what it takes to survive the long term... Where will it be in a decade from now? Not to mention that Microsoft, and Apple to an even bigger extent, both want Android terminated with extreme prejudice.

Google will not give up without a huge fight... they now have market share of the mobile device market and will want to stay there. Microsoft are late to the game and Apple don't give enough freedom (to coder or consumer). I'm an app designer (amongst other things) and don't see Android going anywhere. Outside of USA and UK, iphone/ipad is really not that popular.
 
Don't worry about the post-PC talk. Remember that Apple will always make computers, for (at least) one reason - it's unlikely that full iPad applications will ever be able to be made on iPads themselves.

The point of post-PC is that not everyone is going to need a laptop or a desktop in the future - I think Steve Jobs or somebody likened them to trucks at one point - a lot of people can make do with a car, but that doesn't mean you can't buy trucks. I think Apple knows that there will always be specialist uses for computing devices that won't be possible on iDevices, and they're not just going to concede that segment to Microsoft and others. Remember that even though Apple makes the bulk of their money from tablets and iPhones, the Mac has been growing rapidly year over year for a long time, while pretty much every other computer brand has grown little (or for many, negatively).

Also, I don't think iOS will ever be merged with OS X for similar reasons as stated above. But the main reason is that it just doesn't make any sense (I think Microsoft was anticipating that Apple would go that way, which is why they made Windows 8 a weird hybrid, but I think they were wrong. The jarring user experience of the switch between Win 8 desktop and metro UI are one example of why it's a bad idea. Trying to use the Windows 8 desktop on a tablet is another - for instance, you just can't reliably use elements such as checkboxes).

Sure, Mac OS X and iOS will share features and libraries and things, but I think that if they were going to be merged then recent Apple apps on Mac OS X, like the App Store would look a lot more like it does on iOS than the very desktop-optimised version they have now. The difference in interaction between tablets and laptops/desktops just demands a completely different user interface, and there's little benefit to merging them much more than they are currently.
 
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