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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Infancy...

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dillont said:
Even though I haven't put down the $ for a reservation (boy am I tempted!), I feel like I owe you money. I've learned so much about successful approach to starting and running a business because of the openness with RED's launch. And I've learned so much about many other things from the people who helped make RED possible.

To Jim, who made this happen. Thank you. To those who are creating this revolution, Thank you. To those who believed and took a very public leap of faith. Thank you. To those who share their knowledge so openly and so willingly. Thank you.

You are my heroes. Seriously.

Gratefully,

Dillon
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Well said Dillon.

I've been so inspired by this company that it's given me the courage to launch a non-film based business that I've been wanting to do for a long time now.

It really is because of Jim and the RED teams influence....and many others around here as well.

I owe this forum a whole lot and the learning is just beginning.

Hopefully, I'll be shooting product shots in 4k :)
 
Method said:
Mike I think you have made some very valid points, personally I live too far away to have to return a camera for repairs so I agree, Red should take the time to fix bugs so we don't have to stick Red stickers on HVX's (brilliant piece of work though)

Method
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Toronto is far? I am in Ghana, West Africa. RED, take your time.
 
bradvr said:
I'll trade you a RENTAL of our RED for your lot in Park City!
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bradvr,

I'll trade you a RENTAL of my lot for a RENTAL of your Red! You could build a snow fort and stay there during Sundance. That's what I do.

-Thor
 
Jim,

No doubt there is an anxiousness building in those whose numbers are due up soon, as we can't wait to start shooting with the camera. But I have come to the conclusion that I'd rather wait until a lot of the bugs are worked out (thanks beta testers!) and there is a lot more information about how to shoot with it. We are getting some excellent real world feedback from the guys out in the field with their Reds, so it is very beneficial to us.

You guys are doing a great job.

Steve
 
Baby steps

Baby steps

Mark - I have a 2 year old as well, we'll have to have a "kids in 4K" festival some time :innocent:

I am having a gas being a beta tester, no complaints, BUT - it is not the same experience that you would have with everything fully enabled. For starters RedAlert is essentially a test bed app, a shipping version of RedCine should be a huge help.

Test signal outputs (bars and such) are not yet enabled and neither are histograms so setting exposure is not nearly as exact a science as it will be. This camera has great latitude and the data set seems to react very well to aggressive grading but, nailing the exposure is still a really good idea and should be easier with the full toolset.
 
I have a great understanding for RED delivery (postponed) dates.
Personally I am not in any rush.
My clients can wait too.
So give the RED Team enough time to do the job.
 
You've said from the beginning that the delivery schedule and even the camera specs were targets and not carved in stone - if we ever find that the schedule or the specs fall out of sync with what we want or need we can get our deposit back. The only way that I will take you up on that offer is if the money just isn't there to pay you.

So far, your schedule has slipped a little while the camera specs have gone up... and I find that to be a far more satisfying trade off than the opposite.

When putting my deposit down, I took a guess at when the rough spots for the camera would be worked out - and it is looking like #351 will be in the first batch of feature complete cameras and a lot of the bugs will be squashed in the intervening ten weeks. If that ten weeks turns into twelve, and there are a few features that still aren't enabled, and a couple bugs are still crawling... well, you dance on the bleeding edge and you gotta expect a few nicks.

I still bare scars from the NeXT computer that is sitting out in the shed... now Steve Jobs, he made the promises. Although now that I think about it, the aesthetics of the NeXT cube and the Red One jibe nicely. Maybe I could pull the insides out of the NeXT #1911 and fill it with some 8 core goodness. See that, twenty years later and I still remember the serial number for that computer... but I'm not bitter.
 
Clint Johnson said:
I still bare scars from the NeXT computer that is sitting out in the shed... now Steve Jobs, he made the promises. Although now that I think about it, the aesthetics of the NeXT cube and the Red One jibe nicely. Maybe I could pull the insides out of the NeXT #1911 and fill it with some 8 core goodness. See that, twenty years later and I still remember the serial number for that computer... but I'm not bitter.
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Yes, you are. You were hoping the Next was like the new Macs... it just took 10 years more to happen and cost a lot less. ;-) just @#$ with you man... How's Lisa and the old Apple 3, or did you not date those bitches!?!

LOL! Don't tell me you dated Mr. Newton, man...

I dated the Apple 2 in 1978, and a few clones until Jobs returned to the fold and forced me back... glad he did... better yet we can boot windows and use Scratch with RED!!! How cool is that?!

Nothing like Dating a RED and having a Scratch... hope it isn't serious? Always use protection....
 
offhollywood said:
I have a two year old son (Sebastian). Watching him develop is the most amazing thing I have ever experienced in my 40 years on this planet. I remember his "infancy". When I look back now and play those memories in my mind I can only think of one adjective that almost does it justice -

Magical.

Infancy = Magical.
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I have a 4 year old daughter and a 2 year old son... I most certainly agree 110%. Can't wait to capture some childhood memories for them in glorious 4K.
 
I don't have a reservation nor would I need one due to a lack of experience, but I have been fascinated by this project from the start and to me, the RED team's openess and commitment to quality is highly admirable. If I did have a reservation, I know that these delays would not be a problem, given the high degree of customer attention and honesty displayed by everyone at RED. While setbacks are never a good thing, they can certainly be better than the alternatives. Keep up the awesome work RED! :D
 
Greg Voevodsky said:
Yes, you are. You were hoping the Next was like the new Macs... it just took 10 years more to happen and cost a lot less. ;-) just @#$ with you man... How's Lisa and the old Apple 3, or did you not date those bitches!?!

LOL! Don't tell me you dated Mr. Newton, man...

I dated the Apple 2 in 1978, and a few clones until Jobs returned to the fold and forced me back... glad he did... better yet we can boot windows and use Scratch with RED!!! How cool is that?!

Nothing like Dating a RED and having a Scratch... hope it isn't serious? Always use protection....
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Worse than the Lisa... I went with the Amiga... but guilty on the Apple Newton.

I have a bad habit of saddling up the best technology and then having it die under me... I really hope that curse doesn't haunt Red Digital Cinema!
 
Jannard said:
My drink of choice is Diet Coke and my cigar of choice is a Cohiba Sublime (real one)... not to say I don't have other alternatives. :-)

Jim
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I drink diet Coke as well. My thinking is that if it is good enough to clean my car, it is good enough to clean my belly too.
 
here only milk.. milk girls as only choice.. :)
 
Sounds good to me. Better to have everything all taken care of.

We can certainly wait as the RED is going to be a fantastic new tool but our company is not based around equipment, so certainly we have the patience to wait for this amazing beast to be unleashed into our productions ;)
 
Clint Johnson said:
I still bare scars from the NeXT computer that is sitting out in the shed... now Steve Jobs, he made the promises. Although now that I think about it, the aesthetics of the NeXT cube and the Red One jibe nicely. Maybe I could pull the insides out of the NeXT #1911 and fill it with some 8 core goodness. See that, twenty years later and I still remember the serial number for that computer... but I'm not bitter.
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Seriously, do you still have a NeXT cube? I've been after one for a giant 'executive' toy in the corner of my office... Mmmm... Magnesium goodness.
 
Adthrawn said:
Seriously, do you still have a NeXT cube? I've been after one for a giant 'executive' toy in the corner of my office... Mmmm... Magnesium goodness.
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Yup, I have the NeXT cube with 8MB of RAM, the 320 MB hard drive, the 256 MB magneto-optical drive, the external 2.88 MB 3.5" floppy drive along with the 600dpi laser printer. The mean, flat black powder coated magnesium case was unscratched and the computer was working fine when I boxed it up.

Those were some mean specs back in 1989 when most everyone else was rockin' the 640KB to 1MB of RAM and the 20MB hard drives. Something like 15,000 of the cubes went out the door so it isn't like they'll be collectors items any time soon so I am really thinking about retrofitting a new system into it. The problem is I think that the eight-core Mac motherboards are kinda big for the one foot cube and it would be kind of sacrilegious to go with a Windows install even though that is the platform I'm using. Maybe go with Windows and skin it to look like the old NeXT OS:devil:
 
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