IMS news please

[kay madsen]

nitpicking...? Well if you do advertising for a product which definitely voids the warranty of the camera it was produced for – and not telling that right way also on your website it´s just not a good stile at all. Period.

This is just an example of a scewed up way, companies think they can get a way with it, without really solving a problem and communicating.

If you call all this marketing, It is defiantly poor marketing…

Marketing has nothing to do with good style. No company would warn a potential customer of the risks involved in using his product unless forced to do so. Let´s enjoy one more time what the late comedic genius Bill Hicks had to say about marketing...

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

P&S developed the first IMS mount for the RED camera where the whole camera front had to be taken off. RED told them that taking of the front of the camera voids your guarrantee. P&S then developed a new version where you don´t have to take off the camera front and thought they solved the problem. They rushed ahead and prematurely put that info on their website without communicating with RED and having the mount approved. Bad mistake. Now RED has put them at the end of the line and they are sitting on their mount hoping somebody at RED will take his time and test the mount. I give P&S credit for telling people that want to buy the mount on the phone that it voids your guarantee. That is good style for shure, better than what most companies would do.

The people who suffer most from this whole situation are the potential buyers. I have a set of Nikons lenses at home aswell as a few Zeiss PL mounted lenses and thought about buying some cool old BNCR mounted rehoused cooke lenses. That´s only possible with the IMS mount... if I seem biased towards P&S it´s only out of selfish reasons. I want this mount badly... and everybody who accuses P&S of whatever is only helping to reduce my chances to get the mount as soon as possible (or maybe not, because in the end as you said BURGER all the discussions seemed to have gotten things moving again...)

 

[Dave Blackham]

If any one is any doubt about the importance of IMS, Birger and Andy Lenisak mounts, not to mention BNCR and other offerings. Just check out the number of view and posts on this board.

For me it is critical to move forward with alternative mount systems so I can use non PL glass where appropriate. That does'nt mean that PL is not essential it just means that other alternatives are just as important too.

Dave
UK

 

[FMG battery]

If any one is any doubt about the importance of IMS, Birger and Andy Lenisak mounts, not to mention BNCR and other offeings. Just check out the number of view and posts on this board.

true.. any doubts?

dave.. the cruel truth is.. not everyone will be happy with this.

 

[J.Burger]

Jarret, IMS news please – anything new you can share?

 

[Rami Mustakim]

it makes me sad but I think I'll have to forget about P&S IMS mount...

P&S don't speak and Jarred doesn't seem to like the mount or the way they communicate about it.

I guess I was naive to think warranty issue would be solved before I get my Red One

 

[Martin Weiss]

Get the Nikon mount for now and hope for good news on the 13th of November.

 

[Rami Mustakim]

Exactly what I do ;-)

 

[Jarred Land]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

 

[J.Burger]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

thanks for the update ;-)

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

Thanks Jarred!!!

A very good news.

 

[Rami Mustakim]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

Thank you Jarred for the update.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

P+S Technik also promise to bring:

- optical viewfinder with PL mount (coming end of this year)
- Field Collimator (coming end of this year)

LINK>>>

 

[kay madsen]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

That´s the spirit! So good the hear that. I hope you guys will find a decent solution for everybody.

 

[RivaiC]

It sounds good, but why next year Jarred ? We still 2 months to go before end of the year

 

[Gunleik Groven]

It sounds good, but why next year Jarred ? We still 2 months to go before end of the year

He could have a thing or two on his agenda (like Scarlet & Epic, a beer in the sunset, SDK, primes, nice surprises, a nights sleep, build 18, more surpises, a date with his gf, Adobe plugin, FCS plugin, realtime RAW editing on iPhones, and general other important stuff...) and PS did push themselves a bit down the prioritylist by announcing that they didn't void the warranty.

Small stuff like that.

Just a wild guess...

 

[Martin Weiss]

I just sent them a message this morning, we are going to try and get together in the beginning of the new year.

How wrong am I at assuming that a RED year equals about 8 normal years? At the pace you guys are running, I cannot be too far off

Anyway, by now I have reached a Zen state where I just know that a new mount will come when it comes...

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

I wouldn't be disappointed because P+S Technik probably want to deliver a complete solution.

- IMS mount
- Optical viewfinder with PL mount
- Field Collimator

All this is coming end of this year.

Don't forget that P+S Technik made the optical viewfinder with PL mount for Dalsa Origin2 4K cameras.

DALSA Corporation just sold the DALSA Digital Cinema division to ARRI.

 

[kay madsen]

I wouldn't be disappointed because P+S Technik probably want to deliver a complete solution.

- IMS mount
- Optical viewfinder with PL mount
- Field Collimator

All this is coming end of this year.

Don't forget that P+S Technik made the optical viewfinder with PL mount for Dalsa Origin2 4K cameras.

DALSA Corporation just sold the DALSA Digital Cinema division to ARRI.

I love optical viewfinders. Only drawback of the P&S solution is that you loose 1 stop because of the beamsplitter. Your camera will effectively be 1 stop less sensitive, only 160 ASA. Not good for shooting available light at night.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

I love optical viewfinders. Only drawback of the P&S solution is that you loose 1 stop because of the beamsplitter. Your camera will effectively be 1 stop less sensitive, only 160 ASA. Not good for shooting available light at night.

How do you know?

Still has to be made.

Btw, I do not know anything how does P+S Technik viewfinder work.

Here is the link How Does an Optical Viewfinder Work? by ARRI.

 

[Hans von Sonntag]

I've seen the P&S optical viewfinder on the SI2K.

It's based on a prism and looses roughly one stop. For the RedOne which has approx. 320 ASA for many not a viable option. Otherwise a very bright and sharp VF close to those one finds with the modern Arris. And yes you can use the VF for focusing. And hence no rotating mirror destracts the picture while running evaluation focus while shooting is to certain extend possible.