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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

IMS news please

Last weekend I had a shooting in Verona, Italy during heavy rain.
RED and IMS both preformed PERFECT.
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Sanjin,
I wouldn't have expected it not too. Verona,I assume it was the Opera you were shooting,I'm envious.
Cameramen have been altering kit since the very start of photography,it's rare to find a combination that works straight out of the box,especially if you work in a highly specialised area like me. Most of what I do is extreme macro. One to one is a long shot for me,so obviously I'm not able to use standard PL glass. The IMS mount will be crucial in giving me flexibility and choice.I also can't wait to get some of my Leica R & M and Hasselblad glass on it.
I've never let any camera manufacturer dictate what I can and can't do,so long as they do their job properly and build a reliable instrument then there shouldn't be any problem. It would be nice to keep the warranty though. All the P&S kit I've seen is superb,so I can't imagine them designing something that would have problems.

Tom.
 
Trouble is IMS currently voids the warranty on the entire camera, so if you have an fault unrelated to the IMS it won't be covered.
 
Okay, let's see what happens.

Anyone who's serious about ordering an IMS if P&S get in touch with Red, work it out and finish what they started, quote this entry and add your name. Burger or I will compile them and get them to P&S, hopefully prompting them to make contact. If we can show them there's $ waiting for them, who knows?
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Okay, up to four. Anyone else willing to place an order if they resolve the warranty issue?

1. Jim Hare
2. Martin Weiss
3. Thomas Dobbie
4. Rami
 
If warranty was worked out I would buy an IMS and several lens mounts today. I would have bought a few weeks ago instead of buying a BNCR mount from Visual Products (which is great, but not IMS).

I switch between PL, BNCR, and Nikon and will buy an IMS as soon as my warranty runs out or when Red and P&S work it out.

Mahalo,
Dusty
 
Hey Dusty,

That's exactly what this petition is designed to do, to show P&S that they are losing sales by not contacting RED and doing what they need to make RED happy with it.

Would you like your name added to the list?

Jim
 
Okay, let's see what happens.
Anyone who's serious about ordering an IMS if P&S get in touch with Red, work it out and finish what they started, quote this entry and add your name. Burger or I will compile them and get them to P&S, hopefully prompting them to make contact. If we can show them there's $ waiting for them, who knows?
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Okay, up to four. Anyone else willing to place an order if they resolve the warranty issue?

1. Jim Hare
2. Martin Weiss
3. Thomas Dobbie
4. Rami
5. Mike Sanderson
 
Mizael said:
Okay, up to five. Anyone else willing to place an order if they resolve the warranty issue?

1. Jim Hare
2. Martin Weiss
3. Thomas Dobbie
4. Rami
5. Mike Sanderson
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Well, there's already $7k-$10k waiting for them. Be nice if we can get it closer to $50k. Anyone else interested?
 
jimhare said:
Well, there's already $7k-$10k waiting for them. Be nice if we can get it closer to $50k. Anyone else interested?
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FWIIW... we too have really been hoping something will materialize with this. We've just been waiting patiently... so yes, if the warranty issue is resolved, we'd order the mount and several adapters...
 
I think RED seems still uncertain if they want to open up to 3rd party mounts. Birger´s Canon mount is perhaps an exception because it was announced so early and Birger played it by the rules, contacting RED first, getting approval of the project and working on all issues before delivering product. (And Jim likes Canon glass, as we all know. And to leave the headache of controlling modern AF lenses to someone else was certainly a good idea at that time.)
IMS is a different story. The mount got developed by P+S in the course of a makeover of SI´s 2K camera, turning it from a sorry looking piece of digital machinery into an industrial product. Developing an interchangeable mount for this camera was a brilliant idea, channeling potential customers from many different backgrounds towards the SI-2K. But after RED´s announcement of SCARLET, only die-hard lens-swappers would consider the SI-2K. When RED users got wind of the IMS it was only logical to ask for an IMS-RED mount.
RED OTOH can´t be too happy about yet another mount where users will start playing with the collimation of the camera´s lens mount. (Even P+S says that they have to adjust the fixed part of the mount on each camera individually. - Correct me if I am wrong here.) Plus the cable issue: it´s not a solution to push it out of the way. Unless the back of whatever mount has a `dumb´ socket for the cable to hold it in place, it will remain a warranty issue.
With the announcement of Ikonoskop´s a-camdII the future of the SI-2K looks pretty bleak. They offer their own camera front plates for different mounts. (Even if they were made by P+S, they are not IMS, but this will not affect sales.)
So in order not to loose out, P+S will have to get their act together and get RED´s approval, even at the cost of re-engineering their IMS mount.
I am not worried about warranty issues, I am worried about lens collimation and a little cable floating around somewhere inside my RED.

PS: I shall wait for the tech specs of RED´s DSMC - it´s only ca 100 days from today - and decide then, if I need an IMS mount for playing with my photo lenses.
 
Yes, add my name to the list.

I have talked to a couple other camera owners who would order if the warranty problem was fixed.

All P&S needs to do is cut a small hole in the shims where the cable comes out of the body and put something to connect the cable to on the back of their mount. Problem solved. There is a simple little plastic receiver for the i-cable that used to come on every sound card made.


Mahalo,
Dusty
 
Looking to demonstrate to P&S that they will get some immediate orders if they communicate with RED and modify the IMS so it doesn't void the warranty.

Up to 6, I'm hoping for about 20 or so.

1. Jim Hare
2. Martin Weiss
3. Thomas Dobbie
4. Rami
5. Mike Sanderson
6. Dustin Cross

Anyone else willing to place an order if they resolve the warranty issue?
 
I'm in the process of finalizing my Red order (wiring funds today) and if the warranty issue is resolved I'd go with the IMS sooner than later. Otherwise, I was going to wait and see over the warranty year - depending on jobs and the need. I already own 4 Canon lenses (as well as a set of Zeiss super speeds) and I want to get the new Lensbabies Composer (Canon). The IMS would simply make all my Canon lenses more valuable.

The .95 Leica looks like a treat as well.
 
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