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IDX, Bebob, or Global Media Pro?

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Brian Shephard

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Hi Everyone,


Just looking for some V-Mount battery advice.


I have a few redvolts for the side handle, but I also want the ability to shoot for extended periods of time in the smallest config possible. I ordered Brook's Vmount plate. Now I'm on to buying batteries.


I'm was leaning towards IDX or Bebob. I also saw this company mentioned in a Scarlet Thread: http://www.globalmediapro.com/
Their prices are almost too good to be true. Their chargers and batteries are 2 to 3 times less expensive than IDX or Bebob. I'm a big believer in "you get what you pay for", so I don't want to waste money on something that isn't going to last. Anyone had any experience with any of these batteries or chargers? I'd love it if these were an IDX or Bebob equivalent!


On to the other two....


IDX has a nice 2 position simultaneous charger:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...S_VL_2SPlus_Battery_Charger_Power_Supply.html
It's small and lightweight, and with a few 90wh and simultaneous charging, you should be able to shoot all day.
I was looking at getting a few E-10S (93wh) batteries. They are 1.6lbs and should run the Epic for about 90 minutes. I am not sure of the charge time on these.


Bebob has a similar 2 position simultaneous charger:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ineering_BE_VS2_VS2_Dual_V_Mount_Battery.html
They have a 95wh battery that's 2lbs, and a 160wh battery that weighs 2.6lbs. At that point, I'd probably get the 160....
Charge time for the 95 is 3 hours and 5 hours for the 160.


Price aside, does anyone recommend either of these brands over another? Is it worth a half a pound to go Bebob 95wh over IDX 93wh? Or is it best to just go with the Bebob 160wh at 2.6lbs?


IDX also has a cool 4 position simultaneous charger (I can't find one for Bebob), but it's pretty big and weighs 7lbs. I can't imgagine lugging that around.


Thanks in advance for the advice!
 
Brian Shephard said:
Hi Everyone,


Just looking for some V-Mount battery advice.


I have a few redvolts for the side handle, but I also want the ability to shoot for extended periods of time in the smallest config possible. I ordered Brook's Vmount plate. Now I'm on to buying batteries.


I'm was leaning towards IDX or Bebob. I also saw this company mentioned in a Scarlet Thread: http://www.globalmediapro.com/
Their prices are almost too good to be true. Their chargers and batteries are 2 to 3 times less expensive than IDX or Bebob. I'm a big believer in "you get what you pay for", so I don't want to waste money on something that isn't going to last. Anyone had any experience with any of these batteries or chargers? I'd love it if these were an IDX or Bebob equivalent!


On to the other two....


IDX has a nice 2 position simultaneous charger:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...S_VL_2SPlus_Battery_Charger_Power_Supply.html
It's small and lightweight, and with a few 90wh and simultaneous charging, you should be able to shoot all day.
I was looking at getting a few E-10S (93wh) batteries. They are 1.6lbs and should run the Epic for about 90 minutes. I am not sure of the charge time on these.


Bebob has a similar 2 position simultaneous charger:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ineering_BE_VS2_VS2_Dual_V_Mount_Battery.html
They have a 95wh battery that's 2lbs, and a 160wh battery that weighs 2.6lbs. At that point, I'd probably get the 160....
Charge time for the 95 is 3 hours and 5 hours for the 160.


Price aside, does anyone recommend either of these brands over another? Is it worth a half a pound to go Bebob 95wh over IDX 93wh? Or is it best to just go with the Bebob 160wh at 2.6lbs?


IDX also has a cool 4 position simultaneous charger (I can't find one for Bebob), but it's pretty big and weighs 7lbs. I can't imgagine lugging that around.


Thanks in advance for the advice!
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Brian,

The Bebob 120EPIC is kind of cool. Had DTAP on it so you can use it to power other stuff - http://www.bebob-rouge.com/index.php?product=6729

I am going for Brooks Battery Plate, but my thought was that since I'm going with some REDVolts, then I'll put one of them in the side handle and then when I need to hot swap, then I'll change the batteries whilst it swaps to the REDVolts.

Batteries that I was recommended where Swit SP-80/3802S - UK link here: http://www.videogear.co.uk/Batteries-Power/V-Lock-Kits/Swit-SP-80/3802S-Battery-Kit/prod_768.html

These are verified for airline travel and you get about 2-3 hours on an EPIC, depending what you are running of course.

I'll let you know when I get the batteries and the EPIC and will report back with tests on the battery.

Hope that helps.

:))
 
Thanks for the help Steve.
How do you determine how long they will run the Epic. I thought I read that a 60wh battery would run about an hour. Maybe I'm wrong. But then the 88wh batteries you've been recommended would last about 90min. I could be totally wrong on how that works though.
 
Brian Shephard said:
Thanks for the help Steve.
How do you determine how long they will run the Epic. I thought I read that a 60wh battery would run about an hour. Maybe I'm wrong. But then the 88wh batteries you've been recommended would last about 90min. I could be totally wrong on how that works though.
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I am going on what I have been recommended by other REDusers. The person who suggested the SWIT batteries said that they have got about 2-3 hours - but it is depending on what you run on the camera of course. I'll know better when I've got them. Even so, 4 of these SWIT batteries at worse would use about 6-8 hours, plus a few REDvolts, then that should be enough for starters on a on shoot. For me, thats more then enough as I will also have some sort of mains power on most of my shoots, so the battery is more a backup. Will get more batteries over time.

:))
 
Steve Johnson said:
I am going on what I have been recommended by other REDusers. The person who suggested the SWIT batteries said that they have got about 2-3 hours - but it is depending on what you run on the camera of course. I'll know better when I've got them. Even so, 4 of these SWIT batteries at worse would use about 6-8 hours, plus a few REDvolts, then that should be enough for starters on a on shoot. For me, thats more then enough as I will also have some sort of mains power on most of my shoots, so the battery is more a backup. Will get more batteries over time.

:))
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Hi Steve,

I'm on the same boat as Brian. The difference is I bought from Red the belt battery clip and and 2B to 1B cable to go with it. From what my bomb squad rep said, there are some people out there who use other batteries with it. Any recommendations here?

Many thanks
Antonio
 
The Global Media Pro batteries are identical to a large number of other batteries out there, all sourced from China. It's just an OEM product that different brands slap a label on. They work just as well as any others. I've had no problems with the 4 batteries I bought from them or the charger. The Epic reads the percentage data correctly. The company just sent a replacement charger because of some issue that was discovered (I don't know the issue) which was a surprise from a company that is generally known for one negative trait: lousy service. I've had no complaints.
 
I am using Blueshape 210Wh 4+ hours on my epic...just forget flying with them. I believe they have smaller ones.
www.blueshape.net

Antonio Ribeiro said:
Hi Steve,

I'm on the same boat as Brian. The difference is I bought from Red the belt battery clip and and 2B to 1B cable to go with it. From what my bomb squad rep said, there are some people out there who use other batteries with it. Any recommendations here?

Many thanks
Antonio
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Brian Iannone said:
Thank you very much for that llnk! =)

If 300 Wh is the maximum for air travel, then couldn't you fly with your 210s?
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My last trip a month ago the maximum allowed was something like 90W according with American. Something may changed since then or airlines have they own regulations...who knows. But 300W is great.
 
About a week ago I saw that there was one of the Global Media Pro batteries that was marked "for Red" that was a 95wh hour vmount. They seemed to have moved it out of their Red section... I know v-mount is a standard, so there wouldnt be any issues with using one not in the "for Red" section right? My thoughts for getting the 95wh is that it is one of the smallest and lightest vmounts so i will use that when i need a Light weight rig and it will still get more life then a redvolt and costs a little less then a redvolt.
 
Christian Munoz D said:
My last trip a month ago the maximum allowed was something like 90W according with American. Something may changed since then or airlines have they own regulations...who knows. But 300W is great.
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The limit is 90wh if you put the batteries in your checked luggage. Batteries larger than 90wh must be carried on the flight with you. You also are supposed to put tape over the connectors and put each battery in a plastic bag. You are allowed to have one battery attached to the camera plus 2 extra batteries. I believe there are shipping limitations on lithium batteries more than 90wh too.

I just ordered a 230wh Global Media Pro battery and their charger. I'll let you guys know how it works out.
 
Brian Shephard said:
I'm was leaning towards IDX or Bebob. I also saw this company mentioned in a Scarlet Thread: http://www.globalmediapro.com/
Their prices are almost too good to be true. Their chargers and batteries are 2 to 3 times less expensive than IDX or Bebob. I'm a big believer in "you get what you pay for", so I don't want to waste money on something that isn't going to last. Anyone had any experience with any of these batteries or chargers? I'd love it if these were an IDX or Bebob equivalent!
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Something that isn't obvious about Globalmedia batteries if you are ordering from the US: they only accept wire transfers as a method of payment and make you pay their transaction cost ($22USD) on top of the fees your bank will charge for an international wire.

They also charge $100 for shipping and insurance for 2 of their red batteries and the charger. You need to account for an extra $160 on top of your total, but it still ends up being a great deal for 2x 160WH RED compatible batteries and a charger for around $900 when it's all said and done.
 
Brandon J.F. said:
The limit is 90wh if you put the batteries in your checked luggage. Batteries larger than 90wh must be carried on the flight with you. You also are supposed to put tape over the connectors and put each battery in a plastic bag. You are allowed to have one battery attached to the camera plus 2 extra batteries. I believe there are shipping limitations on lithium batteries more than 90wh too.

I just ordered a 230wh Global Media Pro battery and their charger. I'll let you guys know how it works out.
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from the safetravel.dot.gov website: "effective jan1 2008, you may not pack spare lithium batteries in your checked baggage"
http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_main.html
The way I read it is that there is no limit to the amount of batteries under 100watt-hour and a limit of 3 (one attached to the device) larger batteries under 300watt-hours in carry-on.
 
I've been doing some research on what size batteries can be taken onboard a plane, and the maximum is 160 Wh (not 300 Wh).

From IDX:

Lithium Ion Batteries less than 100Wh
You can safely carry on-board an unlimited amount of spare batteries, provided you take precautions by covering any exposed terminals with tape or put them in an insulated plastic bag. All IDX batteries comply within this category (including disengaged ENDURA ELITE cartridges).

Lithium Ion Batteries over 100Wh and less than 160Wh
You can safely carry on-board a maximum of two (2) spare batteries, taking safety precautions as noted above. You can carry on-board one (1) extra battery if it is physically installed or attached to a camera or other equipment.

Lithium Ion Batteries over 160Wh (Non-IDX products)
Carry-on of any spare battery over 160Wh is not allowed under any circumstances. You cannot carry-on or check-in this size battery, even if it is attached or installed in a camera or equipment. To transport batteries over 160Wh, you have to ship it as separate cargo and classified as Class 9 – Miscellaneous Dangerous Goods.

Lithium Ion Batteries as Check-In Baggage
You cannot check-in any spare batteries as baggage regardless of the battery watt hour (Wh) rating. However, if the battery is less than 160Wh and is physically installed or attached to a camera or equipment, you can transport this as check-in baggage.
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http://idxtek.com/lithium-ion-transportation/
 
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