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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

I need to learn Resolve comprehensively in three days.

Sounds like you need to get onto a system thats configured for real time, and then nothing will feel slow. That will still bring you back to learning to use the system and Ripple Training and FXPHD have great classes online.
Peter
 
Thanks, I'll buy one or the other (based on what's cheapest, probably). Which tutorial has the best info on conforming (from Premiere Pro)? That is the one thing that will give me a headache I think; the rest of the interface seems fairly simple, just a bit cluttered.

What's faster for Resolve and Epic raw, btw? A Radeon 5770 or nVidia 8800GT? What about for prores?

Any tuts on ingesting from Premiere Pro (and, eventually FCP7)? If I can solve this problem I am more than half way home but a lot of clips don't survive conform. Thanks!
 
Ryan Patch said:
I do hope you realize the offensiveness of this statement, especially to those who have spent lifetimes honing their craft and skill. No one says "I need to learn to be a doctor on a professional level in three days in my spare time." Kudos to you trying to pick up a new skill, but I hope that this experience teaches you to have a bit more respect for skills and crafts that many have spent lifetimes perfecting.
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Thank you for saying it so well, Ryan.

Seriously, just hiring somebody to come in for a day and showing him the ropes would be the Matt's easiest solution. Some things, you just can't learn from a manual -- I don't care what you know beforehand. Starting from ground zero with any new software is rough, even worse in a mission-critical situation.

Merely knowing where all the buttons, knobs, and menus are in the program does not give the user the knowledge of what good color is, or how to take an image and make it look the way you want (or to solve photographic issues). As always, the person does the real work -- not the software. Or, as an old friend of mine likes to say, "it's all about the archer... not the arrows."
 
I've been using Color for years and Resolve is 99% the same. It's like a transition from FCP to Avid. Footage I've graded has played on lots of major networks and theatrically. I just need to learn the interface for a free short I'm doing as a favor (and a couple features and shorts down the road) because I need the .r3d support and superior tracker....

Also, have you considered how insulting your comments are to me? I have been grading for six years... Resolve looks easy. I am sure I can learn it in three days, I just need a tutorial to get me up to speed. Now I have two options. Thanks to those who suggested them. Why would I hire a pro when I am working for free and am better at grading than most pros (my past few jobs have been in post--should I hire myself)? The attitude here is so condescending. I'm sorry but this isn't brain surgery; it's relatively simple software.

Now, back to conforming from Premiere Pro.... Any tutorials on this? Anyone have any advice on making this work? I am pulling my hair out. The rest seems simple enough. This is what the discussion is about now. Thanks. If you would rather continue posturing I'll start another thread.
 
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Ryan Patch said:
I do hope you realize the offensiveness of this statement, especially to those who have spent lifetimes honing their craft and skill. No one says "I need to learn to be a doctor on a professional level in three days in my spare time." Kudos to you trying to pick up a new skill, but I hope that this experience teaches you to have a bit more respect for skills and crafts that many have spent lifetimes perfecting.
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Do you know how offensive your statement is to any doctor??? Comparing learning a single software package to the decade it takes to become a doctor on a professional level is outrageous!!!
 
Josh Beadle said:
Do you know how offensive your statement is to any doctor??? Comparing learning a single software package to the decade it takes to become a doctor on a professional level is outrageous!!!
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Most doctors just ask questions and then go look up your condition in a book.

Now comparing it to a surgeon would be different.
 
Jake Bastian said:
Most doctors just ask questions and then go look up your condition in a book.

Now comparing it to a surgeon would be different.
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Wait....then i AM a doctor! google is my friend for every ailment. and for surgery....my vet wife is as close as i get to that....until i need a heart transplant one day! i draw the line at her cutting my chest open on a tequila anaesthesia session
 
Like I tell the ladies: "I'm a Certified Message Therapist" . . . learned that trade in 2 days
 
Matt W. said:
I've been using Color for years and Resolve is 99% the same. It's like a transition from FCP to Avid. Footage I've graded has played on lots of major networks and theatrically. I just need to learn the interface for a free short I'm doing as a favor (and a couple features and shorts down the road) because I need the .r3d support and superior tracker....

Also, have you considered how insulting your comments are to me? I have been grading for six years... Resolve looks easy. I am sure I can learn it in three days, I just need a tutorial to get me up to speed. Now I have two options. Thanks to those who suggested them. Why would I hire a pro when I am working for free and am better at grading than most pros (my past few jobs have been in post--should I hire myself)? The attitude here is so condescending. I'm sorry but this isn't brain surgery; it's relatively simple software.

Now, back to conforming from Premiere Pro.... Any tutorials on this? Anyone have any advice on making this work? I am pulling my hair out. The rest seems simple enough. This is what the discussion is about now. Thanks. If you would rather continue posturing I'll start another thread.
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Try this:
http://www.biscardicreative.com/blog/2011/09/working-out-kinks-ppro-avid-to-resolve/
I think that if you load your media into resolve first and then open the edl, you might have some luck. Some have also suggested opening the edl in fcp and re-exporting it as a version 5 edl. I'm not sure if this is still valid or was just a premiere 5.5 issue.
 
Hi Matt, the key is have every clip uniquely identified in production and then post goes smoothly. When you are exporting the XML from device A to device B the XML has to explicit instruction as to the clip, start and end timecodes and transitions. If you only pass timecodes they are likely to repeat unless your shoot was all within one 24 hour period. Some systems always start recording from 00.00.00.00 so regardless of when it was shot, you need to use some other way to define the clip.

The industry proven methods are reel/tape name/number, file name, location in the storage, luck. If you just have timecode your XML is likely to include a lot of luck and thus the missing clips and conflicts.

Depending on your source material, exporting a FCP 7 version 5 XML, which PPro 5.5.1 and 6 also exports, should give you timecode and reel number info to populate the media pool and then the timeline. Use the 'auto media pool population' process first and if that doesn't work, put all your clips in the media pool and import the XML again deselecting the 'auto put in media pool' option. Any missing clips can then be identified by looking at the clip timecodes and file name to make sure you have that clip in the media pool and the timecode range is sufficient to match the EDL.
Peter
 
Jake Bastian said:
Most doctors just ask questions and then go look up your condition in a book. Now comparing it to a surgeon would be different.
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The trick is having the skill and experience to know which diseases to eliminate from the list of symptoms.

I once joked with my doctor while he was operating on my hand for a nerve-damage problem. It took him about 5 minutes total (including giving me a shot to numb the area). I laughed and said, "wow, that's a great deal for you -- 5 minutes, $5000. I'm in the wrong line of work!" He grinned and said, "I get paid this much because I know where not to cut." Good point.

A great colorist can save you money in post because they can get directly to where you need to go in terms of color. They can also suggest different looks and solutions for photographic problems you might not have thought of.

Matt W. said:
I have been grading for six years... Resolve looks easy. I am sure I can learn it in three days, I just need a tutorial to get me up to speed. Now I have two options. Thanks to those who suggested them. Why would I hire a pro when I am working for free and am better at grading than most pros (my past few jobs have been in post--should I hire myself)?
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I think it took me more than six years just to figure out what I didn't know, and how to relate to cinematographers and the lighting and exposure problems they needed to solve. And then I had to learn eight different color correction systems, spread out over three decades. All of them are different enough that they require a different philosophy, a different approach, and different features to consider. Knowing how to drive a truck will not necessarily help you pilot a plane or drive a Ferrari.

I have no problem that you're trying to learn Resolve, and you're working on a free project. I objected only to your language, which to me, kind of diminishes the work and skill of colorists. If you had said, "hey, I need to learn just enough to get by and do some minimal color-correction on a freebie project," that's much different than saying "I need to learn this at a professional level in my spare time in three days." The basics you can learn in 3 days, provided you have the background to deal with the rest. Really learning color correction takes a lot longer.

Warren Eagles is definitely a top, experienced guy who can teach you whatever you need to know about Resolve:

http://icolorist.com/
 
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