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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

I know this is a really weird question... Still I'm curious.

Marcus Friedlander

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Hey everyone,

So I know that this sounds ass backwards, and I do feel like a bit of an idiot asking this, but here it goes... Is it possible to cut a project with raw files and then conform proxy clips to those raw files for coloring? Instead of the normal workflow of cutting proxies and then conforming to raw files.

I know... bear with me.

I'm cutting a project in PP, with native dragon raw files, where half of the piece is supposed to look like it was shot in a public access tv studio and the other half is supposed to look cinematic. Now that I'm looking at my rough cut, I realized that instead of grading the TV stuff to look bad, I could just use a high compressed proxy (closer to what you would actually be getting out of a tv studio) and get exactly the look I'm going for. So if I made proxies of my raw files, could I reconform them into my timeline that already has raw files cut the way they need to be? In other words a reverse conform?

Thanks for the help. I hope this doesn't sound too ridiculous hahaha.

(Of course the tv studio look vs cinematic look was supported by lighting and set design, but if this works, I think it will give it an authentic touch that no one can put their finger on.)

EDIT: I am shooting 5k HD and cutting in a 1920x1080 timeline
 
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[...]I'm cutting a project in PP, with native dragon raw files, where half of the piece is supposed to look like it was shot in a public access tv studio and the other half is supposed to look cinematic. Now that I'm looking at my rough cut, I realized that instead of grading the TV stuff to look bad, I could just use a high compressed proxy (closer to what you would actually be getting out of a tv studio) and get exactly the look I'm going for. [...]

Premiere Pro is "lossy" when you scale an image down with one motion effect and then scale it back up with a second one. You might get what you are going for if you just scale down to 640x480 and then back up to whatever your native resolution is.
 
I'm cutting a project in PP, with native dragon raw files, where half of the piece is supposed to look like it was shot in a public access tv studio and the other half is supposed to look cinematic. Now that I'm looking at my rough cut, I realized that instead of grading the TV stuff to look bad, I could just use a high compressed proxy (closer to what you would actually be getting out of a tv studio) and get exactly the look I'm going for.
I can think of a half-dozen OFX effects for Resolve and similar programs that will degrade the image to the point where it looks like bad standard-def TV -- even VHS -- if that's what you're going for. It's pretty simple to do.
 
I've read a review of Adobe CC 2015 that said they have something new called "Candy" that allows you to take pictures of a scene even with a cell phone, and save that as a look in a library. If this works as advertised, take a snap of the studio scene you want to replicate and apply to the footage in question.

Don't know when CC 2015 will be available though.
 
Well, Michael beat me to it. i was going to suggest scaling down and back up too.

Also, there is no weird question. Never feel like an idiot for asking anything. Many people in the industry thought it was weird for two guys to question why there was no 4K digital cinema camera in the early 2000's. :)
 
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