"I just saw Avatar" Thread

[lee caropolo]

I was completely blown away by this movie and could not stop thinking about it all day today. Me and a friend walked to the imax theatre in manhattan at midnight through the blizzard. He was in bad spirits because of the weather and i told him get ready to feel like a 13 year old again! Thank you james cameron for creating yet another awesome movie going experience.

 

[R.ChilD]

Tom you need to school the indies

Tom you need to school the indies

I give a lot of credit to Cameron here for "sneaking in" all the spirituality, anti-imperialist and nature-worship stuff, into a film that will be seen globally by hundreds of millions of people.

It reminded me of the advice Tupac gave to Biggie Smalls when he first got into major-label recording. Tupac said, "Rap for the b#tches, because the n#ggas are gonna buy the CD anyway.

Tom I think you need to lecture lots of film makers cos it seems they dont get it!! You make a lot of valid points that I think a lot of us indies miss. They are most of the time focused with deep meaning stories, isolating the teens who are buying the tickets, when the most important, the human experience is ALL the same. And film on this level is a great way to get your points across and I think James C. did this without overly hammering it!!

On a side note, I disagree with the story being so predictable cos I am yet to see a movie that I couldn't predict, maybe its just me but I think its about how you go about it, with that said I am looking forward to my 3D feature next year!!

 

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

Feels Like The First Time...

Feels Like The First Time...

OK, I just saw this in an 3D IMAX Projection, I'm not a 3D virgin anymore...

(No,... never ever...)

Storywise - a very good film. Masterful writing and direction, which is not a surprise from someone like Cameron. Visually, I have never seen something like this before. Very, very impressive and I can't even imagine how hard it must have been to make something like this... Motion capture, CGI,.. Omg, this is really something new... I was almost attracted to that CGI humanoid chick,.. which is kinda logical as the actress that "played" that character reminds a little bit of someone that I... know... anyway :blush5:, a very good film.

Strangely enough, the only thing that didn't work for me was the 3D itself. Lol. :biggrin5: There were times that I wanted to take off the glasses and just finish the movie in regular 2D. And what's with the pain, man? My eyes were hurting from the start and it kept on throughout the movie. That's not right. OK, I'm an alien from another planet, but my *human* eyes are OK, there shouldn't be a problem.. And don't tell me it only hurts the first time. :biggrin:

So, yeah, now I can't say that I haven't tried 3D cinema but I don't really like it. :biggrinjester:

I can`t see very many uses for 3D that would really work. Not for narrative films, at least. 3D would rock for films like Cloverfield, The Blair Witch Project and the sorts. Cloverfield would really rock in stereo. But Braveheart in 3D? No thanks. Once Upon A Time In The West? It just can't work... La Dolce Vita? Noooooooo.... :bigear:

The best use of this tech would be for gaming. FPS blowing brains in 3D? Oh, yeah! :w00t: 3D porn? A new horizon... :emote_happyhappy: (If only they can invent those devices a little faster :001_tongue If someone can adapt a *fast* 3D workflow, it would work great for documentaries, but AFAIK, there's no quick-n-easy-3D yet. Baraka in 3D? Absolutely.

/propaganda mode: on

And, BTW, the torrent sites are loaded with Avatar, so if you want to try a real game-changer for the industry, you can visit:

www.thepira...

Oh, nevermind... :redface:

/propaganda mode: off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0F4-XFf6w

Sya. :bath:

 

[R.ChilD]

I was completely blown away by this movie and could not stop thinking about it all day today. Me and a friend walked to the imax theatre in manhattan at midnight through the blizzard. He was in bad spirits because of the weather and i told him get ready to feel like a 13 year old again! Thank you james cameron for creating yet another awesome movie going experience.

which IMAX theatre? I tried to go see for the second time and was told it was sold out for the week at both 34th & 42nd street locations

 

[Bryce O]

And, BTW, the torrent sites are loaded with Avatar, so if you want to try a real game-changer for the industry, you can visit:

www.thepira...

Oh, nevermind... :redface:

:

Only a complete idiot would download a movie like Avatar.

 

[PatC]

Visually astounding for me and my bud said it reminded him of Fern Gully.

 

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

Only a complete idiot would download a movie like Avatar.

I haven`t. :rofl:

I just checked if it's online yet, and there's hell of a lot of complete idiots downloading it right now.

I wouldn't spoil my "first time" like that and it really is a movie you'd wanna watch in a theater, not home video. I'll probably see it again in the cinema, but in 2D, yes, thanks. I love my eyes and I love my brain, it's a nice brain, good activity.

3D is for sharks. :smilielol5:

Good night.


P.S. Ahh,.. Neytiri, mother Earth... bring the meaning back into my life. :001_tt1:

 

[Shawn Nelson]

I give a lot of credit to Cameron here for "sneaking in" all the spirituality, anti-imperialist and nature-worship stuff, into a film that will be seen globally by hundreds of millions of people.

Does your quotes mean you're joking? If by "sneaking in" you mean front and center then yes! It's far and away his most preachiest film.

I thought his idea that the interconnected nature of the forest was something tangible and measurable was a great idea that barely got any screen time.

 

[Tom Lowe]

By sneaking in, I mean he gave us a basic, archetypal plot that can be enjoyed around the world plus all kinds of explosions and action and romance and eye-candy and everything that is needed to suck hundreds of millions of people into seeing the film -- then he hits them with all this spiritual, philosophical, nature-worship stuff. I doubt many people were expecting that! :thumbsup:

Or course Cameron has a long history of making films that deal with the most important question of our time -- man's relationship with technology. The Terminator films dealt with Singularity theory before Vinge ever wrote his seminal paper on the topic.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

I will only say this:

I have known diversity my entire life from all corners of the world (LITERALLY), and I have learned many customs, especially those of which languages I speak, we are all the same no matter were we are from or were we spend our days, in our country or in that of an other, we are all AlLIENS in one way or an other one visiting an other country or place, even so we are in the same Planet, go figure.

We al have our opinions, my opinion of this Movie however is that it was simply FANTASTIC in all and every aspect of Story Telling, so BRAVO to every one involved.

My hears have well learned to completely undermined the voices of negativity and unfounded complains of the never happy.

I have but a short time in this world, and I intend to not spend it listening to winers, complainers or pessimists, this movie give me goos bumps, several times.

I guess soon some of you will know and better understand why, while some of you already know.

AVATAR in my opinion will be the biggest MOVIE in Cinema History!!

Now if only we, Humans were just 1/100% in touch and in respect of our own planet like the AVATAR creatures, well then that would really be something... I'm doing my part, hope you are too.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

like your capital letters? :dita::anti-old:

Not quite understand you Roberto, if that is your real name since you are not posting your last name, but if you refering to shoot me, sorry you are too late , there have already been those that did that for real, and I'm still here for a little longer any way.

As far as the fingers, I don't particularly like for people to tell me to F$#@!#! Off, especially on a public forum, face to face is different as I can respond properly.

As an educated and respectful individual with High integrity I don't use those kind of Avatars to express my opinions while offending others,a as I simply try to never offend others, to bad you do.

 

[Ace]

Not quite understand you Roberto, if that is your real name since you are not posting your last name, but if you refering to shoot me, sorry you are too late , there have already been those that did that for real, and I'm still here for a little longer any way.

As far as the fingers, I don't particularly like for people to tell me to F$#@!#! Off, especially on a public forum, face to face is different as I can respond properly.

As an educated and respectful individual with High integrity I don't use those kind of Avatars to express my opinions while offending others,a as I simply try to never offend others, to bad you do.

Dont worry.. Roberto is sitting in the naughty corner for a day to think about how to address people politely...

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Hehe... And Roberto get's banned, again. Ace you beat me to it. And I thought I had nipped his post before others saw it, didn't realize Ketch was already responding.

Why do with have that smiley that flips people off anyway?

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Dont worry.. Roberto is sitting in the naughty corner for a day to think about how to address people politely...

Thanks Ace, this is the first time it has ever happen since my first post ever on a forum two years ago, which was actually on DVXuser, since then I'm now a respected member of over a dozen forums and communities were I go to learn and share knowledge, share opinions, ask and give help, and replies such as the one just posted by Roberto, didn't make me fill good, cause I just don't understand what I could have written to offend some one else opinion to bring him to respond in such a rude, unpolite and very disrespectful way towards me.

The fact that I felt particularly touched by AVATAR, and wanted to share a strong opinion, I don't think deserved such a response, and I thank you again for jumping in Ace, much appreciated.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Hehe... And Roberto get's banned, again. Ace you beat me to it. And I thought I had nipped his post before others saw it, didn't realize Ketch was already responding.

Why do with have that smiley that flips people off anyway?

Yeah I was just responding to Tom's PM wen I got it, but if you wish I can delete it Jeff, even so is a bit too late since I already seen it :~).

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Don't worry about it Ketch. And every forum has a few clowns.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Okay Jeff, I guess I need to learn to be less sensitive.. sure wish that was possible!

 

[Neil Larson]

Just got out of IMAX 3D. Blew me away. Wow.

 

[Michael McLaughlin]

Ketch

Ketch

don't worry about the sensitivity...

its sorto of tough when you have bounced off eternity.


Gives you a bit of a different perspective on life then some people can,
or ever will appreciate.

 

[Benni Diez]

I've seen it last week in (Dolby) 3D and will see it again tomorrow, in Real D I think.
The visual magic is just mind blowing!

I think Cameron has two problems though:
He was so eager to accomplish the technological goals he set for himself that at some point he just had to give in in terms of complex story telling. The film just had to make an insane amount of money and the only way you can predict that, as sad as it is, is to 'dumb' it down to a somewhat common denominator. That way the Fox guys could be convinced that it will likely repeat Titanic's business and to go ahead pumping in those millions.

I've read some infos about the original scriptment and what was left out over the course of making the movie. There were some really cool and original ideas and the overall tone must have been much darker plot-wise. I'm pretty sure, had he had his way without studio interference and the insane marketing pressure, this could have been the brilliant film a lot of us are missing right now. But it could never have been done in the first place, not for another ten years.

The other problem is that the guy spent a decade not really getting his hands dirty developing new fictional stories and screenplays. He's kinda stuck in 90s style storytelling which was a lot cheesier and cornier as it is now. The thing is we remember the great 80s and 90s films like Aliens, T2 and other filmmakers' masterpieces as how we saw them THEN. If Predator would have been made and released now in exactly the way it was done in the 80s, it would look downright stupid.

And that's a problem Cameron could have handled by letting in some gifted 21st century writers. But that's him, no one touches your lifetime project when you're the king of the world, right?

As for how he handled the studio problem, I think he pushed them as far as he could. He always does.

All that being said: Avatar is still a masterpiece of filmmaking. Name me one masterpiece that doesn't have its flaws.

The 3D is used superbly like never before. The CG characters are more believable than a lot of flesh and blood characters I've seen over the last few years. The film is just pushing so many boundaries and you can clearly see the love that was put into making it, which has been a rare thing lately.

So still 5 out of 5 with a little dent on one.