HV20 1920x1080 4.2.2 Uncompressed

[Poi Boy]

Check out hd for indies on hv20 from today, the red rock set up is awesome !
Aloha
-A

 

[pat@hpnc.com]

Thanks lots of good info. Oh and here is the link for those to lazy to find it http://www.hdforindies.com/

 

[ahusain]

You're not too far off... thats the reason I bought my Andromeda. I assembled my system for about $4,900 and thats way under the start up cost for HVX200, and it outperforms the HVX200! I'm still waiting to see if the Hydra can match Andromeda's latitude though, I'm a bit skeptical... but thats another discussion. I think the only people getting Hydra are those who already own the camera and have paid it off. You don't need a RAID for capture, at least not from what I've heard, I shoot Andromeda to a regular old 7200 RPM firewire drive, and I've heard people using drives as slow as 5200 RPM.

reading some of the other posts on this thread, it's interesting that many people don't consider that the modded dvx actually produces BETTER output than the modded hvx.

 

[Chris Nuzzaco]

reading some of the other posts on this thread, it's interesting that many people don't consider that the modded dvx actually produces BETTER output than the modded hvx.

Well, I'm betting that Andromeda will be better than Hydra, but no one has actually seen Hydra footage yet, so its all still just a bunch of educated technical speculation at best.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I think Hydra will do some things better and it will have a bit more resolution. I don't know if that will translate to truly larger images, but hopefully they'll be sharper than what the Andromeda produces. The Andromeda is still going to have the edge in terms of sensitivity and use in lower light levels and I don't see where the Hydra will improve on dynamic range. I guess we have to wait for the footage to see what it can really do.

 

[Chris Nuzzaco]

I think Hydra will do some things better and it will have a bit more resolution. I don't know if that will translate to truly larger images, but hopefully they'll be sharper than what the Andromeda produces. The Andromeda is still going to have the edge in terms of sensitivity and use in lower light levels and I don't see where the Hydra will improve on dynamic range. I guess we have to wait for the footage to see what it can really do.

You know, I've actually upresed some Andromeda footage in AE carefully using some sharpening tools, and it looks very good, substantially better than HVX200 going to P2 at 1080 24PA. I'll dig around and upload some frame grabs. The main advantage to Hydra would be variable frame rates and and synced audio, but I'm still a skeptic on it beating the dynamic range of Andromeda. I'm not so sure about low light. The best Andromeda record LUT puts the camera at ISO 160....

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Cool.

I wish I knew someone who owned the A1 so I could test it. I'd basically try to destroy the image as much as I could to see how far I could push the cam in the future.

Hi Justin,

I have an A1 purchased to be a behind the scene camera shoot for my RED's but now I was thinking of using this camera for an up-coming project, so if you are not to far from me we can meet up and put the A1 to the test.

My location is LAKE ELSINORE, California in Riverside County.

Take care.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

 

[Gary Ploj]

HDfury

HDfury

Couple of questions I can answer. I have an HV20 and the dell monitor.

I can tell you from experience that you cannot convert the HDMI out of the HV20 to DVI and get an HD signal. You will get an SD signal to the monitor, but not HD. I think it's something to do with HDCP. Anyway the component from the camera works great and looks awesome, no joy on the HDMI to DVI, unless Canon comes out with some firmware or something, which I highly doubt.

Secondly, I have the Intensity card and the images it capture through the HDMI are amazing. I really couldn't believe the quality I was getting, even with the free Blackmagic Mjpeg codec supplied. You can buy Cineform and go to town without noticing any change in quality from uncompressed. I've even transcoded to DNxHD 220 and edited in Avid which works like a champ. (I assume this will be the workflow for most Avid users with the Red anyway)

Once again you cannot convert the HDMI out of the Intensity card to DVI and view it on the Dell. I tried and the dell won't even see a signal. I emailed Blackmagic and their response was that it won't do it because of a colorspace conversion that would have to take place that the intensity nor the cable is doing. If you have a Dell and want to use it as a monitor for your Intensity or your HV20 then make sure you get the Intensity Pro with the component.

That being said the HDMI out to a true 1080 monitor with HDMI in looks great.


Here's how I'm recording with the HV20 and Intensity. I'll build you one if you like.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=97526

Good Luck

Chris

Hi Chris,

I was searching on the net and I found this product called "HDfury" and I thought this would help you to connect HDMI (HV20 or whatever PS3) to your Dell 24 inch monitor. I even saw a YouTube video of this product (converter) from a PS3 HDMI to Sony monitor. Check it out...so far; ton of reviews.
Let me know if you like.

http://www.curtpalme.com/HDFury.shtm

YouTube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dAUwAGMtyE

Enjoy.

 

[jbeale]

The main problem with all the samples I've seen from the HV20 is not HDV artifacts, it's oversharpening, color fringing (CA from lens) and blown highlights. Is anyone serious enough to be using a Red, finding the HV20 quality really acceptable?

 

[John Godden]

The main problem with all the samples I've seen from the HV20 is not HDV artifacts, it's oversharpening, color fringing (CA from lens) and blown highlights. Is anyone serious enough to be using a Red, finding the HV20 quality really acceptable?

Given the right type of shot the HV20 can be quite usable. I.e. locked-down talking head interviews or any shots that don't push the codec very hard and have decent lighting.

Regards
JohnG