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Hummmm..... The DIY Movi

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That's one of the first things I thought when I saw the Movi is that it seems to be just their quadrocopter with the "copter" part removed from the equation.
 
so all you have to do is get some stabilizers and power, then build your own rig? how do you control the thing?

and what makes the movi 15k?
 
paulherrin said:
so all you have to do is get some stabilizers and power, then build your own rig? how do you control the thing?

and what makes the movi 15k?
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No, it's not quite like that. This is a different motor system (MoVI is bush-less, i.e. silent) entirely and I don't think it's silent like the MoVI or as mobile/flexible.

The really hard challenge to achieve the MoVI system is in the software however - something that imitators will have a harder time matching IMO than the mechanical side, which is all manufactured from scratch by FreeFlyCinema (the motors anyway). The software interpolates from controlled moves of the rig and/or the remote control. AFAIK there's no 'Majestic Mode' or 'Shaky cam' mode implementation out there. But time will tell.
 
yeah, i realize this is a different design and gimbal system than the movi... i'm just curious about how the thing would work if you wanted to 'fly' it without a copter. can you control pan/tilt or do you just balance the tilt and point it?
 
Brett Harrison said:
No, it's not quite like that. This is a different motor system (MoVI is bush-less, i.e. silent) entirely and I don't think it's silent like the MoVI or as mobile/flexible.

The really hard challenge to achieve the MoVI system is in the software however - something that imitators will have a harder time matching IMO than the mechanical side, which is all manufactured from scratch by FreeFlyCinema (the motors anyway). The software interpolates from controlled moves of the rig and/or the remote control. AFAIK there's no 'Majestic Mode' or 'Shaky cam' mode implementation out there. But time will tell.
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I had the same "oh my God I want that today" reaction that tons of other folks had after seeing the video of MOVI. But after doing a bunch of research and talking to lots of folks - it's the wrong price for the product it is - especially without any serious IP. This year there were a bunch of octocopter vendors - and I looked at a bunch of options - and ironically - the one that impressed me the most - was $10K cheaper than the nearest competitor. 15-22lb payload - three axis gimbal - German made brushless motors - $15K total. So ... multi-copters for filming is the new craze - using a three axis gimbal for hand-held camera stabilization is an awesome concept that only now is being "discovered" because the cameras are light and small enough.

After talking to a bunch of folks - I suspect it will less than six months before we see the $5,000-$7500 version of the MOVI from someone else. That said - it's damn cool and I still want one now.
 
thanks for the info guys... i'm gonna keep looking into it. i didn't realize there were any affordable options other than steadicam and kenyon-gyros - good news :)
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
I had the same "oh my God I want that today" reaction that tons of other folks had after seeing the video of MOVI. But after doing a bunch of research and talking to lots of folks - it's the wrong price for the product it is - especially without any serious IP. This year there were a bunch of octocopter vendors - and I looked at a bunch of options - and ironically - the one that impressed me the most - was $10K cheaper than the nearest competitor. 15-22lb payload - three axis gimbal - German made brushless motors - $15K total. So ... multi-copters for filming is the new craze - using a three axis gimbal for hand-held camera stabilization is an awesome concept that only now is being "discovered" because the cameras are light and small enough.

After talking to a bunch of folks - I suspect it will less than six months before we see the $5,000-$7500 version of the MOVI from someone else. That said - it's damn cool and I still want one now.
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Hi Mark do you have a name for the < $10K cheaper than the nearest competitor. 15-22lb payload - three axis gimbal >

 
Jerky but they can only get better in due course. I am so preparing for this phase of things to come that I have just ordered 3 three toy quadcopters to get my flying skills to where it should be for the big one. One toy for $70 from Amazon, One $200 from RC toys in Canada and the DJI Phantom with a GoPro from Amazon. Next will be an octocopter that will carry my Scarlet soon to become Epic and really great shot for my movies.

Brett Harrison said:
No question. MoVI are doing something special for sure, but you can see what's in the works.
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Les Dittert said:
The sample video did not look smooth at all.
jerky.
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Flite:
"For sure pan needs brushless motor ;-) because right now it is only experiment with 2 axis stabilization.
Also, there were no vibration dumpeners mounted between rig and gimbal. In final version we are planning seperate mounting plate with vibration dumpeners similar to those used on RC multirotors."
 
Hello,
we plan to offer our brushless stabilizers soon. There will be a version for cameras around 2 kg, one for cameras up to 5 kg, like the Red Epic and we also build a stabilized head for cameras up to 10 kg, to be used on a steadicam arm or easyrig. The mid sized version is the most advanced in the moment. This is a test with 5 kg weight including camera and brass weights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te2O2bEkgTw


We have first prototypes to test and improve step by step and plan to add small joysticks to the handles for better control of pan and tilt in single operator mode. For more information, updates and new videos you might visit our website http://www.portahead.de. A test with Epic and real footage will follow soon.



Andreas Kielb
 
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