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How to Achieve this Look

Scott Lamoreaux

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How would I achieve this look? Appears to be a red filter or something but what specifically can I do in RCX to achieve this?

Thank you,

Scott

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Scott Lamoreaux said:
Thank you Bob - Which one False Color or Full Spectrum? Sorry not too familiar. Also are there any LUTS out there that you know of that can fake it versus using Photoshop?
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For this BW look you will need the Full spectrum and an IR Filter (not IR cut!) for the lens (basically on of those nearly black dark red filters, avoid to looking through it with bare eyes, your iris will open up and you expose your eye to heavy non visible radiation).

Cheers

Ulf
 
Ulf Krentz said:
For this BW look you will need the Full spectrum and an IR Filter (not IR cut!) for the lens (basically on of those nearly black dark red filters, avoid to looking through it with bare eyes, your iris will open up and you expose your eye to heavy non visible radiation).

Cheers

Ulf
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Can you link to them specifically? Is there any footage out there that you know of that shows this OLPF?
 
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Dr. Sassi said:
The Infrared Olpf from Red.com does this as well.

http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-ir-pass-olpf-color

Note that the IR pass filter come in different versions where they start to cut/pass, measured in wave length. NDs are not very useful, in extreme cases, I have used (added) NDIR filter... Questionable, at least.

http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/infrared-cinemas

Example RED Epic Dragon 360x180 view IR:
https://plus.google.com/photos/phot...44/6251226859843888786?iem=4&gpawv=1&hl=en-US
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Doesn't look like it works for my Scarlet-W

Would this do the same thing I'm looking for: http://kippertie.com/?product=full-spectrum-zero-lowpass-filter-for-dragon
 
I would bet the next best thing would be to play around with the RGB Mixer in Resolve (or a similiar color-correction program) in Monochrome mode.
 
Scott Lamoreaux said:
Doesn't look like it works for my Scarlet-W

Would this do the same thing I'm looking for: http://kippertie.com/?product=full-spectrum-zero-lowpass-filter-for-dragon
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It looks pretty much like this.
http://kippertie.com/?product=ir-spectrum-zero-lowpass-filter-for-dragon
Note that a full spectrum is wider than just open up the IR part. But UV needs special lenses, most lenses block too much UV. Check UV photography Wiki.
To manange this look from your initial image I suggest, as other did so as well already, to get some IR pass (block visible light) filter.
Last year I went over twenty times with a different lens into a park, to test each lens with IR, in short, some lenses create a bright middle spot, which can be corrected in post. Not every lens works great and focus marks will be not correct, if not set for IR.

Perhaps a better example from my exploration :o)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvl5-H-ulVQ

Marc Wielage is correct, those effects can be done to a certain degree in post. Key anything green and desaturate as well brighten it. Then handle sky or other elements.
Or just place an B&W layer adjustment on top of the footage and set the blend mode to luminace ;o) ... From there you might get some ideas after playing with the B&W sliders.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ez4qR9tYQw

Enjoy
 
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That´s what I got from John (Kippertie) a year ago and I second the 720nm filter is a good all purpose starting point:

The difference between Red’s colour IR olpf and our Full Spectrum is just the softening filter.

Given that almost all aliasing shows as colour moire, we opted to remove the OLPF entirely for our application to improve sharpness.
The typical deliverable image is almost always monochrome, and the colour moire is consequently hidden.

For IR only filtration 720 nm is a good place to start. 850nm for IR illuminators provides good response. The sensor response falls fast at 900-950nm.
 
Ulf Krentz said:
That´s what I got from John (Kippertie) a year ago and I second the 720nm filter is a good all purpose starting point:

The difference between Red’s colour IR olpf and our Full Spectrum is just the softening filter.

Given that almost all aliasing shows as colour moire, we opted to remove the OLPF entirely for our application to improve sharpness.
The typical deliverable image is almost always monochrome, and the colour moire is consequently hidden.

For IR only filtration 720 nm is a good place to start. 850nm for IR illuminators provides good response. The sensor response falls fast at 900-950nm.
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so not to beat a dead horse but will this filter give me the look im going for? http://kippertie.com/?product=ir-spectrum-zero-lowpass-filter-for-dragon
 
Not correct. IR spectrum OLPF will achieve this look. Full spectrum produces "false color" look. Been shooting with a Kipertie IR Spectrum filter for a while now, and this is the look you get with that filter (after adjustments in RED CineX).

Ulf Krentz said:
For this BW look you will need the Full spectrum and an IR Filter (not IR cut!) for the lens (basically on of those nearly black dark red filters, avoid to looking through it with bare eyes, your iris will open up and you expose your eye to heavy non visible radiation).

Cheers

Ulf
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Can anyone definitively state their experience using no OLPF at all on RED Epic-W Helium 8k S35?
I am looking for a filter that has noe softening, but does not create 'false color'
Is there a clear glass OLPF? Obviously no OLPF risks damage to sensor, but has anyone shot that way and seen the sharpening expected from removing OLPF?
Were any special settings required in camera to work with no or blank OLPF?
Were there any new effects, like stronger than normal Moire / screendoor due to sensor design / fine grid? Should be minor since very small sensor elements I would think.

Obviously color science will be wack since some of the color filtering in RED OLPF is required to get end to end color science - correct?
Thx
Mike
 
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