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How is it possible to edit 5k footage from the Red Epic?

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david laguna

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I have a very power computer (£3000/$4800), but I don't think it could handle RAW 5k footage, although it may easier, but since I don't have the Red Epic I wouldn't know.
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Do they have to convert to a editing Codec?

Adobe Premeire Handles 2 - 4k footage natively, but 5k?

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No problem in premiere with 5k footage! If your computer power is to low you could easyly reduce the resolution to 1/4 and it will look fine ro cut!
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david laguna said:
Adobe Premeire Handles 2 - 4k footage natively, but 5k?
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Adobe Premiere handles 6k footage. You can edit at lower resolutions using the same R3D file. As mentioned above, you don't need to edit at full res. When you render out, then you can switch to full res. The upcoming CC update enables GPU debayer which should speed up rendering vs. software only.
 
Yeah, w/ an i7 3930k and a Titan (only partially utilized due to the slower CPU) I get about 1/2 res of 5k footage in real-time with GPU accelleration. With just CPU I get realtime at about 1/4 Resolution. If you have a brand new computer and a fast GPU you shouldn't have any trouble handling 1/2 res 6k when the new CC update is released.
 
RED Cine X is free and has some options to edit. Certainly the most native way to test.

Normally you don't edit in 5K, you take a subset of the information:

http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/redcode-file-format

What counts is the fluidity during editing, and the option to always have the full resolution a click away.

Many people however edit with proxies, to have the pipeline fast, see some discussions here on RU.
 
Glen Powell said:
Damn! You cheaped out! You really need a computer worth at least $4900. in order to work with 5K RAW...
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It would be an interesting exercise to price out the least expensive box that can (with decent responsiveness) handle 5/6k. When travelling, I work with 5k all the time on my 18month old 8770w laptop (~$3500), it works but exporting times are long and preview is limited to 1/8th res. My Z820 workstation (~$11'ish k) however can preview full res and is maybe 4x faster exporting. I'd say the laptop doesn't have sufficient performance for heavy use, the Z820 clearly does - so something in between.
 
The 5k raw r3d's got "built in proxies" basically they are able to show every pixel (like full 5k for the epic MX) then the r3d also can be viewed as every second pixel (half resolution) every third pixel and so on down to 1/16 the resolution. Premiere and FCPX and some other editing programs utilize this feature. So while you edit you can choose to see the material in what ever your machine is able to playback. Then when done editing you can render out your film as a quicktime, DPX sequence or similar to a wanted resolution. So basically you do not really edit in 5k but you edit from looking at a chosen fraction of pixels from the 5k files and when you are done you use all the pixels to render out your film...

Normally you would not need to render out the film in higher resolution than UHD as there are (today) not that many monitoring options for higher resolution than UHD /4xHD.

So basically your computer does not need to be fast to edit, a red rocket will make it possible to edit in full 5k, with no pixel skipping and also downsample to 4k and got dual SDI out for UHD monitoring. To do so you also need a fast enough disk/raid to manage the quite large data stream. The same goes for rendering, It alos works well with certain / fast graphics cards that can be used instead of the red rocket and red rocket X. The red rocket X is for dragon / 6k use.

So if I was you I would download some r3d files and fire up premiere or such and see how it goes. if slow then make sure your storage and GPU card is fast enough, if not swap your graphics card and or disk for a faster option... If still not happy get a rocket. :)
 
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