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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

HBO Entourage

Andy Jarosz said:
Uh...

No. Not very sick. Or revolutionary.
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So what your saying is this can and HAS been done already. I'm not sure which cam manufacturer already has this ability.

Arri, Pani, etc...., please enlighten me.
 
Does EPIC have a pre-record function? Perhaps that's what he was hinting at with respect to the cut.
 
I don't want to rain on your parade.. but I don't understand what is the excitement every time someone is using a Red camera.

This doesn't project confidence. It's like that 16 years old who scores and runs to tell the guys.

If this is a serious company that produces professional equipment then your posts should say "guess who DIDN'T use Red on his project, can you believe how backward these people are?", and not the other way around.

I think Ari Gold would agree.

Or do it in a subtle way - "here is a clip from Entourage, they used Red, enjoy....." etc.
 
Jimmy Odom said:
So what your saying is this can and HAS been done already. I'm not sure which cam manufacturer already has this ability.

Arri, Pani, etc...., please enlighten me.
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There's a reason it's not used. It's useless, especially with the REDMOTE. Every time you wanted to have a conversation about the camera, you'd have to take it elsewhere because you'd freak it out.

Sure you could lock it...but then you have to unlock it somehow. And you might as well use that time just to press "record."

It's not revolutionary because, well, I've been able to do it with Microsoft Dictation since '98. So why doesn't everyone use voice commands with their PCs? Because it's useless. In the time it takes you to say the command clearly and slowly enough it can recognize it you could have done six other things. Same with voice dialing on a phone.

tl;dr: incredibly useless due to REDMOTE.
 
Mike Brent said:
I don't want to rain on your parade.. but I don't understand what is the excitement every time someone is using a Red camera.

This doesn't project confidence. It's like that 16 years old who scores and runs to tell the guys.

If this is a serious company that produces professional equipment then your posts should say "guess who DIDN'T use Red on his project, can you believe how backward these people are?", and not the other way around.

I think Ari Gold would agree.

Or do it in a subtle way - "here is a clip from Entourage, they used Red, enjoy....." etc.
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This is a grass roots business or a family owned type mom and pop shop


RED was Jannards vision not some giant conglomerate with a snooty attitude

I find it incredible that a man who is a billionaire is so humble and genuinely excited about his business doing well


there is nothing wrong with showing humility and humbleness

do you want REDS CEO sounding like BP's CEO?

I dont think so.
 
Mike:

I can appreciate your comments, but there needs to be context to fully understand the underlying enthusiasm among many of the camera owners particularly the ones with numbers below two or three hundred.

specifically, we put our money down and we were ridiculed by our peers, friends and families for "wasting" our money on a "scam". This went on for a long while, as a matter of fact i had an AC claim that "this camera is a joke" , just yesterday at prep. so the complaints are on going. so it feels good every so often to have a win that we can talk about because we are constantly getting bashed.

with regard to posting every high profile job, that is a much different case. being an early adopter and one of the loudest voices in the "I just did this" camp, let me defend myself and others by saying that i get countless PM's from camera owners from all over the world (literally) that ask me to post examples of high profile jobs. why? because they have clients that are unsure of the format, and want some sort of reassurance that they are not the first group to "take a chance" on red for a seemingly "big" project, which of course is relative.

this is what motivates me to share with a hope that the format gets more widely adopted and therefore i can enjoy a level of job security that is quite frankly missing in most other jobs, be it in entertainment and in other industries. let's face it, we have had a pretty good ride in a very down global economy, that says a lot for the product and the manner in which it has been promoted and in turn how it has been embraced.

data cameras are not going away, in ten years, RED may or may not be around as the leader in this segment of the camera market, but for sure the release of the RED ONE will go down in entertainment history as the camera that changed the way the motion acquisition industry works.

dino georgopoulos
red one camera serial #0031.
 
dino g said:
i get countless PM's from camera owners from all over the world (literally) that ask me to post examples of high profile jobs. why? because they have clients that are unsure of the format, and want some sort of reassurance that they are not the first group to "take a chance" on red for a seemingly "big" project, which of course is relative.
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This is an important point, and why everyone should post (when possible) their successful Red shoots.
 
Jeremy Piven worked on a show back in november/december last year. I was on set as the DIT and he came into the back of the camera truck to have a peak at the footage. He was blown away by the footage and commented about how the movie looked "Big" it was definitely a smaller budget film, but the images coming out of the camera always say otherwise. We shot 4.5k. I was so thrilled to have the DOP allow me to make that decision. He wanted to, but the fear was that post would not be able to handle it. So he left it up to me. as said above, you deal with a lot of crap as an owner about the camera being "prosumer" or "a joke", something I have also heard from AC's, but when people see the end result, and people in the industry are proud of what they are doing because what they are working on looks so amazing, it just feels awesome.
 
Oh and if anyone is curious, the show is called "Waska"
 
Admittedly, if you weren't on the ground floor when RED started out, you might not feel the same sense of accomplishment and excitement with each new level of success.

But comparing RED's incredibly hard work over the past several years, their dedication, and passion in creating a revolutionary product which has changed the entire film and stills industry to a 16 year old with his first girlfriend is just plain silly.

...oh, and I bet back in 1917, The ARRI Group was just as excited.


Mike Brent said:
I don't want to rain on your parade.. but I don't understand what is the excitement every time someone is using a Red camera.

This doesn't project confidence. It's like that 16 years old who scores and runs to tell the guys.

If this is a serious company that produces professional equipment then your posts should say "guess who DIDN'T use Red on his project, can you believe how backward these people are?", and not the other way around.

I think Ari Gold would agree.

Or do it in a subtle way - "here is a clip from Entourage, they used Red, enjoy....." etc.
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Mike Brent said:
I don't want to rain on your parade.. but I don't understand what is the excitement every time someone is using a Red camera.

This doesn't project confidence. It's like that 16 years old who scores and runs to tell the guys.

If this is a serious company that produces professional equipment then your posts should say "guess who DIDN'T use Red on his project, can you believe how backward these people are?", and not the other way around.

I think Ari Gold would agree.

Or do it in a subtle way - "here is a clip from Entourage, they used Red, enjoy....." etc.
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In some ways, RED was the camera a lot of people wanted to hate, for a number of reasons but I suppose the #1 reason being the hype surrounding it. Some of that still lingers, although I have to say a lot of people have come around to recognizing it as a very viable tool. Even now, there are still myths or old problems that get floated around. Sometimes you have to dispel these myths, but I'm finding as time goes on, a lot more people have worked with it and as long as it was used in a professional manner the experiences are usually good. I've been on a lot of national commercials and I hear less and less chatter about the RED. It's more about the content and how we're going to achieve it, which is the way it should be. That's how I know RED has come a long way. And now that they have a track record, I think the next gen cameras will be more about how they can improve current ways of shooting and less about all the other stuff.

I don't mind Dino posting projects he's working on. For one, it offers an opportunity to ask him some questions if I see something that was done that I'm curious about. Perhaps it's a look, or maybe a workflow related thing. There's some benefit there. I don't think he solely comes on here to post his resume.
 
Dino... Very much on point!!

I hope you have time for a Margarita at the Baha Cantina in between projects...it's one of may favorite WB haunts!

Dave
 
Robert Sanders said:
I guess those F23s on the last season didnt work out so well.
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Robert

Were you inferring that Entourage was shot with F23s last season?

Entourage shoots on 35mm film including the new season starting June 27th.
 
Entourage is currently shot on 35mm.. This promo was a mix of 35mm and RED-MX.
 
We shoot many HBO promos and other network Promos as well with the Red One.
Comedy Central
MTV
NBC
ABC
CBS
FOX
FX
E!
SyFy
VH1
TV Guide
Hallmark
Versus
Fox Family
ESPN

and others...

In Fact the Snoop Dogg show Fatherhood which we shot the promos for in October of 2007, represented the very first RED footage seen domestically and Internationally on Television.

Promos shot on red make good business.

enjoy

dino
 
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