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Handle With Care: Red (raid) Drive

I suggest a gel mount. This should provide the additional layer of absorption needed I would think. There is probably already a lyer of it inside, but an additional layer outside would probably mean the drive would be less prone to bumps. Not sure if this solves whip pan problem though. That might just be the drive itself unable to deal with the inertia.
 
Our first Red Drive was broken after three days of shooting. No extreme situation, handled with care, no shock, no anything. It doesn't mount anymore. Only after a very long time it mounts on the cam. I can format and record, but when I unmount and wan't to connect to the macbook, same problem again. No mounting at all... I hate such things, specially when I need it for a production.

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rainer
 
That's unfortunate Rainer. Hopefully they can get you a new one quickly.
 
support is really quick at red... called them... drive was sent back in the morning...
 
we had an issue with the red drives shooting at 2k 60fps. Seems like the clip you viewed would morph with the 2 previous clips. Doesn't sound like dropped frames but the drives were being used handheld and in all sorts of situations. Only 20% of the footage was affected. We used 2 drives and they performed flawlessly both days of shooting but after transfering and then viewing, the above happened. Has this happened to anyone else? Red seemed not to know what the problem is.
 
rainer check your drive cable ours is bad must send it back...it shuts down the camera at times
 
I haven't opened one up yet, there is shock mounting inside right? You were just kidding right Brook?
 
no shock mounting, seen the insides....bummer....Panasonic P2 store has lots of shock mounting inside because they KNOW what can happen to data that costs so much to get at times with a big budget project
 
Not sure I would ever shoot high end stuff on the RED drive really...seen far more dead drives then I care to admit...
 
stevesherrick said:
I haven't opened one up yet, there is shock mounting inside right? You were just kidding right Brook?
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Not kidding, there's no rubber in those things. They're definitely tough as nails - the case is bomb-proof - but the drives aren't exactly riding in comfort.

If people get into situations where they need the record time of the RED DRIVE but can't baby the camera, a creative shock mount will be necessary. Whether that shock mount is a hat with some camera tape or a 3rd party proper mount [which must be coming...] is up to you. I don't think anybody will try and argue that the former doesn't work!

I just can't wait for the RED RAM [or is it the RED Flash Drive now?].
 
Anyone got photos of the RedDrive disassembled they don't mind posting here?

Or if you are worried about Red seeing it and voiding your warranty, email them to me and I'll post them up for you. Speaking of which, since there is no "warranty void if sticker removed" type thingie on the drive, would this void the warranty?

Cheers,

Paul
 
Bummer! :angry02:
I mean it's the vibrations that can kill a drive. Even if you handle the drive with care, you can't avoid occasional vibrations.
 
We will build our own shock absorber, something like the microphones has absorbers on the boom....
 
You could probably build a similar style cradle that is lined with Gel absorption and that might help out, while keeping the footprint relatively the same. You don't want wool hats, grandma's fur coat, or any other odd looking thing hanging from your camera. It's your data, you need a solution that protects it, helps it work consistently and hopefully it looks like it was designed to work with the camera.
 
That's ridiculous - Ikegami had rubber shock mounts in their drives 10 years ago.

That's ridiculous - Ikegami had rubber shock mounts in their drives 10 years ago.

Brook Willard said:
Not kidding, there's no rubber in those things. They're definitely tough as nails - the case is bomb-proof - but the drives aren't exactly riding in comfort.

I just can't wait for the RED RAM [or is it the RED Flash Drive now?].
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That's ridiculous - Ikegami had rubber shock mounts in their drives 10 years ago - same kind of laptop drives and very robust. That's just obvious - wasn't anybody thinking about this stuff?

You shouldn't need solid state for any normal bumps and scrapes - a reasonably cushioned laptop drive should work very well.
 
I was wondering how long it would take for the hard drive horror stories!

Current-technology hard drives have no place on a film set, other than perhaps in a nice stable download box that is shock-mounted, babied and turned off (heads parked) when being moved.

Hard drives are unbelievably delicate, precision machines. You have a little ceramic head hovering a few microns above a piece of rusty metal moving hundreds of miles per hour. What do you think happens if anything gets bumped?

Perhaps Red is using some kind of special mil-spec fighter-jet hard drives?

Compact flash is looking better and better. Hopefully the SSD drive will reflect current market pricing when released.
 
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