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GROUP BUY: Hive 200-C

Ericsson San Pablo Chu said:
So it seems like from the photometrics the Hornet is comparable, but slightly less powerful, to a standard Arri 650 Plus tungsten fixture or Arri L-7C correct?
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Ericsson,

Yes the L7C and and Hornet 200-C do create roughly equivalent FC/LUX, L7C can create a tighter beam angle so can create a higher FC number but beam angle to beam angle the Hornet is just slightly brighter but only by a few lux, the primary difference being the price, weight and power:

L7C - 18lbs
Hornet - 3lbs

L7C - 160 W Nominal, 220 W Maximum
Hornet - 140W (Max)

L7C - $3500 (list price)
Hornet - $2100 (list price)


Hope this helps,

Jon
 
Mario,

Right now our only option is shipping from the US, although AbelCine might be able to help with this. I will contact some of our European dealers to see what options might be available. In the meantime since you are a based in Amsterdam, please contact BBP Light BV to see what kind of options they can offer you!

Cheers,

Jon
 
Hi all,

I have received some PMs asking about the difference between the 5-chip array in the original Wasp 100-C and the 7-chip array in the Hornet 200-C and what difference it makes in the saturated color, spectrum and white light. The short answer is that while the white light curve will match between the two lights, overall the 7 chips are an improvement in overall spectrum covered and the color space we cover in fully saturated light. Here is a helpful graphic that shows the differences:

c-series-spectrum-charts.png


Jon
 
Jon Edward Miller said:
Mario,

Right now our only option is shipping from the US, although AbelCine might be able to help with this. I will contact some of our European dealers to see what options might be available. In the meantime since you are a based in Amsterdam, please contact BBP Light BV to see what kind of options they can offer you!

Cheers,

Jon
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Hey Jon, please let me know if you have any EU dealers willing to work with the price of the GB. I would love to purchase at this rate.
 
I'm definitely interested if we hit the 20% mark.

I noticed that some people are listed with and without the reflector/barndoors. So, just wanted to get some clarification... does the pricing include those items?

Thanks!
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Chris
 
funny, started to look into these today and now I saw this gb, thanks Jon for putting me in contact with the Swedish dealer, I'll see if it's easiest to go that way or maybe participate in this group buy..

Anyway, have a few questions regarding these lights and thought that this might be a good forum to ask them..
Have you estimated a run time for the diods and is there a way to change them?
Found a video on youtube of a guy testing the wasp 100-c with a color meter and found out that he got the best CRI for daylight settings when using something like 7400 K and 28 Saturation, but that was a year ago and probably not the same for the Hornet, anyway is that something that you've looked in to and is it consistent or do you recommend to test each individual light with a color meter after receiving the unit?
 
Petter,

Thanks for you questions so a couple answers:

The LED array is rated at 50,000 hour L70 (as in still producing 70% or more of the originaly lumen output). There is a way to change them out but would require shipping the unit back, we do offer a full 2 year warranty, also the array is constantly self correcting so if any single diode fails or falters the entire array with change the way the algorithm blends to compensate to maintain color quality.

Yes so in the video Justin is solving almost exclusively for CRI and then adjusting the CCT, which may or may not be applicable to your needs, since CRI isn't a standard for cameras. We have measured CRI with over a half dozen different color meters and spectrometers, each manufacturer and model gets a different result on all lights, not just ours, those color meters are just like camera sensors, all are mostly correct but none of them exactly the same.

To help with this we have set up the different white light profiles, these are designed to better match the very different camera sensors in the world you can see these in a video here:


Having done tests, the Sekonic C700 loves the Cinema Profile, however that doesn't make that mode "correct", the C700 is just geared toward matching camera sensors like the RED and Alexa, but the Photo profile can produce richer more saturated images on sensors we associate with photo manufacturers, and strictly speaking Broadcast may be the closest to lab accurate, and therefore certain Sony, Panasonic cameras etc may respond better. Having said that the point of these profiles and the SHOT controls is that you can tune the light to the sensor, other sources and aesthetic look you wish to achieve.

Our lights are consistent but the world sure isn't, adjust your Hornet accordingly.

Jon
 
Jon Edward Miller said:
Shawn,

Yes the 400FC at 3M (10Ft) is with the reflector that ships with the kit in this group buy:

https://hivelighting.com/products/hornet-200-c-par-spot-omni-color-led-light/

Yes we made a Y-Cable and dual battery plate solution for both Vmount and Gold (AB) mount batteries
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Awesome! Thanks for answering all my questions. Ok +1 I'm in for a unit on the group buy plus 2 of those Y cables for ganging together two batteries. I don't need the plates since I think that putting that much weight on the head isn't ideal for the lighter stands I want to use during travel, so I'll sling batteries in satchels from lower on the stand and run the cable up to the head.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
putting that much weight on the head isn't ideal for the lighter stands I want to use during travel, so I'll sling batteries in satchels from lower on the stand and run the cable up to the head.
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Shawn you can attach the battery plates to a stand using Mafer Clamps (Super Clamps) in the place of the grenade locking pins that attach it to the head of the light. We sell this as a kit if you prefer to keep the batteries on plates but on a bag and off the head.

Cheers,

Jon
 
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