Gamma Question

[Scott Lamoreaux]

Do most of you record viewing RedGamma4 on your monitor or do you typically view in RedLogFilm? Is there any added benefit?

 

[Phil Holland]

I would say typically the majority of shooters monitor with one of the REDgamma variants as the image looks closer to "normal".

This is particularly useful when focusing as the contrast can assist with that.

 

[Scott Lamoreaux]

Thanks Phil -

 

[David Battistella]

I use RG4 right now and have RAW VIEW mapped to toggle on a key for quick checks.

 

[Owen Rennie]

RG4 looks that good 90% of the time I feel like there's no need to grade...

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Yes Owen, that's intent of RG4 - a nice looking image straight out of the camera. Viewing REDLogFilm is sometimes useful to visually determine clipping in exposure / shadow detail, but personally I like to use the exposure false colour mode for that.

Graeme

 

[Martin Stevens]

I would love to see a RG5 or similar, where the blacks are just like RG4, but the highlights are much less compressed or contrasty, as I much prefer how the highlights look when using RedLogFilm. Or, perhaps even a RedLogFilm2 that has dark blacks like RG4.

 

[Graeme Nattress]

I know what you mean. However, the curve has to bend, and if you don't bend both ends (to peg blacks, and to peg whites) it doesn't look quite right. You can of course experiment this this yourself by setting REDLogFilm as the curve and using the "Luma Curve" to build your own.

Graeme

 

[Martin Stevens]

I know what you mean. However, the curve has to bend, and if you don't bend both ends (to peg blacks, and to peg whites) it doesn't look quite right. You can of course experiment this this yourself by setting REDLogFilm as the curve and using the "Luma Curve" to build your own.

Graeme

Yes, I see your point, and I understand... but to me Film never pegs its whites because there is always grain in the brightest whites, therefore I still want my Red Camera gammas to be more film like and NEVER peg the whites.

Release Print, Film stock, LUTS (in camera) would be nice...

 

[David Mullen ASC]

Yes, when I build my own LUTs for a monitor out signal, they are often flat in the highlights but contrasty in the shadows, which I think of as more of a film look, whereas video cameras often seem flat in the shadows and contrasty in the highlights.

But in general, I prefer not to monitor in log because then you start to light and expose to look right in log, which is defeating the purpose of log to give you information on the ends outside of what you lit for, to give you flexibility in color-correction, just like the difference in gamma between film negative and print stock.