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Fuji`s new Eterna stock and RED comparsion

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Just saw some jaw-dropping tests of Fujifilm's new Eterna Vivid 160 and 500 stock.

http://vimeo.com/15153019

It would be interesting, to see how the RED would do on the same motives.
(Yeah, I know, Fuji is probably not interested in shooting such a comparison)

Nevertheless, is there some similar material (beside DiCaprio smoking cigars) shot on the RED - especially with th MX chip?

Frank
 
Awesome test...thanks for sharing. I always appreciate actual field results over charts and graphs. Very curious to see some EXT daylight test like this with EPIC X.
 
Wow, I'm in love.
 
Mohammed El Sharqawy said:
the most interresting thing of this film stock is the skin tones..
but, I wonder how the color grader would interact with such footage.. it would be very tricky..
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Why would this be especially tricky?

Assuming a 4:4:4 film scan, it should be no different than any 4:4:4 footage, and if scanned at high bit depth (as most film scans are) it should have a lot of flexibility in post- just about as much as RAW video footage- like say RED.

Now these particular images are shot on the edge intentionally. Footage shot on the edge, whether or not it was intentional, always presents limitations to the colorist. If the highlights are blown out and the blacks are inky on the sensor, or in this case the negative, you obviously already have the dynamic range of the medium already in use- so you can't expand it.

By contrast if you look at material intentionally exposed conservatively within the bounds of the mediums dynamic range, the colorist has plenty of room to play... but they also MUST use some of that play room to re-create the dynamic range and contrast that the DP left on set. Sometimes that presents more of a challenge, as you can easily expend the DR of the post system just correcting the source material.

No... I have to say I prefer a vivid stock like this to a flat stock intended for the grade. As a DP, I shoot my footage to look like the intended result as much as possible, I don't depend on the colorist to do my job.

My imagemaking heart is digital- because I like the way digital systems work.

That said, if Fuji would like to send me some film (I'll take 16 or 35) I'd have a blast shooting it and taking it through post. I have some Day EXT coming up for a show whose studio portions I shot using a 7D, and I'd love to be able to extend the DR dramatically for- it would really show off what film can do compared to commodity digital systems.
 
This looks absolutely fantastic. Film is definitely my preferred shooting format. Though to be fair I prefer Kodak stocks to Fuji, still, both are amazing in every aspect.

These new stocks are just another reason to keep shooting film.

I also did some tests with the R1 M-X last night and I must say I'm not that impressed, nowhere near as impressed as I am by film.
 
Pretty good test and imagery but I can't judge at 720x576 size picture when all of the three famous ASC cinematographers repeating

always the same story like a phrase: "Rich blacks, low noise and natural skin tone color rendering".

Looking forward that GenArts Sapphire Film Effect as soon as possible add those two Fuji stock looks at the plug in

software and then I can make any of R1-MX footage to exactly match to those two gorgeous stock looks for any digital projection.
 
amazing good exposure.
 
Great test. Beats looking at charts. Having shot on the salt flats, I'm familiar with the environment of the first test, and the second and third test are what I shoot day to day. It all looks terrific. Its a bold stock; it looks very contrasty and saturated right out of the box (though of course all of this has been graded...). Looks like you could save a few hours in colour timing and the DI suite by getting a great in-camera look without pouring over fat negs and stretching and saturating to get something punchy but naturalistic.
 
Elliott S Frank said:
Possibly an artifact of the film test having been digitized and then compressed to H.264 for the web, but the shadows in Jarred's early-development HDR sample look more natural than the shadows on the faces in the Fuji test.
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define "natural"
 
Fuji are doing a great promotion at the moment, look on complete16.com
400ft of fuji film including process and telecine and dvd of rushes for £125.00.
They are trying to promote using 16mm, it's a great idea, i have bought some and will buy more....hehe....my Aaton Prod is coming off the shelf!!!!
 
Available in HD here:
FUJI DEMO HD

This new stock from FUJI looks AMAZING!

Edit: looks like the source footage for upload was INTERLACED - bad move in the steaming video world - still looks great though
 
Robert Horwell said:
Fuji are doing a great promotion at the moment, look on complete16.com
400ft of fuji film including process and telecine and dvd of rushes for £125.00.
They are trying to promote using 16mm, it's a great idea, i have bought some and will buy more....hehe....my Aaton Prod is coming off the shelf!!!!
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Too bad it doesn't include a transfer to an HD format...
 
I almost ignored looking at this test footage, but I'm glad I took a look!

That film looks stunningly beautiful. It reminds me again how much film can really do and how beautiful it can look. I like the idea these stocks are not so flat; they remind me of Kodak EXR 50, but with better skin tones.

Now if I can figure out a way to download some of that 160 Vivid to my A-Minima daylight spools, LOL.

-Fran
 
Fran Kuhn said:
Now if I can figure out a way to download some of that 160 Vivid to my A-Minima daylight spools, LOL.

-Fran
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Don't mean to go too far off topic, but how do you like your A-Minima? Also, have you talked to anyone that has run Fuji through one? (I know that it is supposed to be Kodak only, but there are workarounds.)
 
I'm pretty sure Dion Beebe is incapable of making a bad image
 
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