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Free Energy Mylow Magnet Motor

Erik Bien said:
What's this, some guy builds a perpetual motion machine in his bedroom, offers YouTube video as proof, offers DIY plans for $25 which nobody else can seem to make work, then recuses himself from further discussion citing fear of mysterious persecution from shadowy forces, and people are skeptical? :out:

If you're going to rewrite the laws of physics in ranty YouTube pop-ups, it might be worth learning how to use spell check ...
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Yep, this has HOAX written all over it. Just a plot to stir up political support of new energy research, being green, and hating the government.
 
Karlgustav said:
In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
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Graeme Nattress said:
And if we'd taken deposits with a similar disclaimer, we'd have been ridiculed too. But Jim gave his guarantee, we all worked hard and make it happen.
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Sure, I am not saying that I believe it, and the chance that it works might be very very slim but the implications if it works are so huge that it actually might be worth the risk.

Gavin Greenwalt said:
I'm always curious why people seem to think that shadowy government agencies wouldn't want us to have free energy. Oh no the world economy will rapidly expand bringing a new era of peace and prosperity! That must be stopped! ... wait what?
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I agree that you shouldn't believe all conspiracy theories. And the other hand thinking that industries don't protect their interests is kind of the opposite. The oil industry is making trillions of dollars of profits per year, if they can keep doing that by spending a couple of million here and there (let's say by buying up plans to save petrol) than they will do that - it's just logical thinking. Or to keep it with cameras: there is a reason why Canon's DSLR's don't shoot video in 24 fps with manual control.
 
When I was in the 6th grade, I suggested this exact concept to my science teacher when he was trying to teach us that perpetual motion can't exist. He said that magnets lose their magnetism over time, so eventually this motor would stop. It was kind of discouraging at the time, but it makes sense.

Keep in mind, it's not perpetual unless it outputs more energy than it uses. Not only that, but it's got to be able to use the energy it creates to keep itself running.

Also, hooking a generator up to this will create friction. I'd be willing to bet that you could stop this thing by simply grabbing a hold of it. Even small amounts of friction would devastate the function of this motor.


**EDIT** Perpetual motion needs to at least create as much energy as it uses, not necessarily more.
 
Even the "The oil companies buy up any technology which would put them out of business" is complete horse patootie though.

Let's say you have a technology which would not only compete but replace a 3 trillion dollar a year company. This is your greatest achievement as an inventor. Do you:

A) Patent it and start finding investors (hell I would put in thousands of dollars if they could demonstrate a working prototype).
B) Sell it for a million dollars and be glad all that hastle of becoming richer than bill gates will never come to pass.

Yeah... I think everyone so far has chosen B. Because who really wants to start up the next multi-trillion dollar company which also drags millions of people out of poverty and single handedly does more to fight famine and death than any other technology in history?

That doesn't sound like the sort of company I would want to start.

Let's take it a step further. Let's say Exxon had this technology. They may be big. But they also aren't the only player in the game. If they could become THE energy company and destroy their competition you can bet your bottom dollar they would do it.
 
The design is simplistic. I've had thoughts about putting this kind of technology into cars. Magnets have so much power potential.

Think of Superman the ride at Six*Flags Magic Mountain, they've powered the ride using electromagnets and switchers to launch the coaster to over 100mph in 4 seconds. The technology is definitely available, people are just afraid to tackle it.

**EDIT** - Link to how they made Superman: The Escape ride.

http://www.thrillride.com/Superman/Superman.html
 
Justin Kirchhoff said:
The design is simplistic. I've had thoughts about putting this kind of technology into cars. Magnets have so much power potential.

Think of Superman the ride at one of the Six Flags in California, they've powered that right using magnets and switchers to launch the coaster to over 100mph in 4 seconds. The technology is definitely available, people are just afraid to tackle it.
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Yes, they power the Superman ride with magnets. "Electromagnets!"

They are pulling 480volts from the main grid to do that work of moving that much mass and using amazing amounts of energy to do it.

You would not be able to do that with a static magnet. At least not twice. You would have to expend as much energy to reload it. Ever try to push two powerful magnets back together?
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
B) Sell it for a million dollars and be glad all that hastle of becoming richer than bill gates will never come to pass.

Let's take it a step further. Let's say Exxon had this technology. They may be big. But they also aren't the only player in the game. If they could become THE energy company and destroy their competition you can bet your bottom dollar they would do it.
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Good points! Any energy corporation that exclusively owned such a technology would make enormous amounts of profits and sooner or later would put all of their competitors out of business since they wouldn`t need any coal, gas or nuclear fuel.

Alan Skinner said:
Yes, they power the Superman ride with magnets. "Electromagnets!"

They are pulling 480volts from the main grid to do that work of moving that much mass and using amazing amounts of energy to do it.
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Haha. Definately! (may be a small detail, but nontheless essential :-D

Justin...so what you thought about doing was putting an electric motor into a car?? Since those coaster`s actuators are uncoiled electromotors (simply spoken)
 
sander kamp said:
Or to keep it with cameras: there is a reason why Canon's DSLR's don't shoot video in 24 fps with manual control.
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Next Canon camera will shoot at 33 fps. Nobody will need it, but they'll do it just to prove they are better than Nikon or Panasonic. And guess what, they will sell at least 1 million units before they launch the next one, because the salesperson in that xMart store will convince those people that 33 fps is much better than 24 or 25fps.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
Let's say you have a technology which would not only compete but replace a 3 trillion dollar a year company. This is your greatest achievement as an inventor. Do you:

A) Patent it and start finding investors (hell I would put in thousands of dollars if they could demonstrate a working prototype).
B) Sell it for a million dollars and be glad all that hastle of becoming richer than bill gates will never come to pass.
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Most inventors are not good businessmen. The best businessmen are those who use other people's inventions to set up a business, look at Microsoft, Apple, RED...

And it's a myth that the best technology will automatically surface. Look at the combustion engine: it's essentially 100 years old and hasn't changed much while it is inefficient, pollutes, makes noise and is very complicated. But as a business concept it works and makes money, that's why we're still stuck with it.
 
No, because 24p is the film look, and 24 is therefore better than 30, their next camera will do 20p because 20p is even more filmic than 24p. It must be so, it follows the fps logic.

Oops. They already did that....

Graeme
 
Graeme Nattress said:
No, because 24p is the film look, and 24 is therefore better than 30, their next camera will do 20p because 20p is even more filmic than 24p. It must be so, it follows the fps logic.

Oops. They already did that....
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This proves that they are way ahead of you...
 
We are forgetting that the REAL films, the FIRST REAL FILMS were shot at 18 fps.

That will be for the next model!

Isn't sweet to go back to basics?
 
Boy, you are an unobjective lot. Cynics, ..I mean skeptics, a bit laughable in a bewildering way. On the one hand you have got people that will believe in most anything, and on the other hand a group of nut cases that will believe in almost nothing. Objectivity, rationality, out the window, as long as it "agrees" with their viewpoint.

There has been many such claimed inventions. One of the recent famous ones was by a local inventor who was a neighbour of a friend (only got to meet his partner). There used to be a magazine here on all this stuff and people experimenting.

I too concluded that the energy source might be from the process making the magnet, or from vacuum energy, rather than being a true net energy producer for most of these (guess how many fakes).

When I was thirteen my science teacher also had said that perpetual motion didn't work and she illustrated why, within 30 seconds I had a design, and within 15 minutes I had converted the design to practical magnetics. I then concluded that it was a threat to world economic security (energy industry) and abandoned it... Stuff like that. Would it have worked, depends on how field interactions can be made to work. The net effect, is normally zero (minus losses from the system) what you gain here you loss there, which is always a problem when talking to the average free energy novice.

Trying to get energy to do what you unusually want it to do in general, is difficult, but that is what engineers are for, not cynics.. I mean, skeptics ;) .
 
The problem with youtube, is that it is full with amateur cynics .. I mean skeptics ... ;) that make fake videos on exotic stuff. Who else would normally fake the evidence? Even a con man is too often a skeptic, I mean cynic ... ;) at heart about other people and these ideas. Otherwise why would he try to con so many people.
 
wow. so much talk. very exciting. I think my buddy Sean at Steorn will have Orbo launched pretty soon. RED should be on the shortlist to work with their technology.

Mike
 
"Sean McCarthy CEO stated that “technical problems arose during the installation of the demonstration unit in the display case on Wednesday evening. These problems were primarily due to excessive heat from the lighting in the main display area. Attempts to replace those parts affected by the heat led to further failures and as a result we have to postpone the public demonstration until a future date.”"
 
That's like if RED had turned up at NAB 2007 with working RED Ones, but that the lights in the tent overheated all the cameras so they didn't boot, and the KG box and backup player died, the bulb in the Sony 4k projector popped, and someone stole Jarred's laptop and posted up his Maya files for the spinning watch.

Graeme
 
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