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Firestore and RED

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Anyone know if RED can stream to an FS-100 Firestore?

thanks.

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It can't. Of course, FireStore could release a future product that does work with RED.
 
Why would you want that? Everyone I know who has used a Firestore has ran into nightmarish problems, including myself. Besides, what advantage would it have over the Red Drive?
 
RED media

RED media

And that reason is our hard drive solutions are only one part of a wide choice of SATA compatible digital media. So you can either ride the price / performance curve of hard disks or flash memory, or both. Whichever is best for your application.
 
NoahK said:
Yep- let's hope there's never a Red Firestore for that matter.

Noah
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Second to that....my Gaffer is shooting his girlfriend's senior film on a HVX w/ movietube, and he has had major problems with the Firestore they are using....not worth it to me. I used it twice and now just bring my G4 laptop with me to use as a dump drive....never again!
 
I was under the impression that Firestore drives had ridden out their problems and were not very reliable. I'm considering the purchase of a FS4. Any advice is welcome.
 
RED Media or FireStore

RED Media or FireStore

The existing Firestore product line is not compatible with the RED ONE camera, as it uses a SATA interface. Our Digital Magazines provide dual 2.5" disk drives - either hard disk or flash memory equivalent - with a SATA interface to the camera, plus FireWire 800, FireWire 400 and USB-2 (mini syle) interfaces for a computer.

They are not specified for, and have not been tested with, other cameras that may support external drive recording over IEEE-1394.
 
billymc said:
I was under the impression that Firestore drives had ridden out their problems and were not very reliable. I'm considering the purchase of a FS4. Any advice is welcome.
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Kinda depends on what your needs/budget are. If you need hourlong takes take after take- there's not much alternative. Otherwise go for 16GB P2 cards and a good laptop for transfers. Firestore has done a lot of fixing but I still hear plenty of folks having headaches from them. Not to mention it's one more piece of gear that you have to carry.

Noah
 
Firestores

Firestores

billymc said:
I was under the impression that Firestore drives had ridden out their problems and were not very reliable. I'm considering the purchase of a FS4. Any advice is welcome.
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Billy,

I use Firestores frequently on my day job. Record strait to the avid format and then edit from the drives. I have had little problem with them but I would never suggest using them with the Red. As others have pointed out they are not a fast as the Red drive and more expensive. If you are thinking about using Firestore with Red I would reconsider.

Frank
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Firestore is a difficult animal but still necessary for some P2 jobs where the media is too expensive otherwise. There is some testing neccessary before you jump into a project with it, but once you learn the hiccups its a good device in my book.

If there is a good way to go from HD-SDI to DVCProHD over firewire than the Firestore might be a good way to skip to DVCProHD P2 off the RED, possibly a good option for a quick AVID only gig, but currently looking convoluted.

It looks like 720pRedCodeRGB will be just as viable and better for everything else in that category.

IBloom
 
billymc said:
I was under the impression that Firestore drives had ridden out their problems and were not very reliable. I'm considering the purchase of a FS4. Any advice is welcome.
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I use Firestores all the time because I do mostly run and gun work and I don't have time to download. I've had a few problems, especially with vibration, but for the most part they've worked very well for me. I have both FS4 and FS100, and they are pretty rugged. I've dropped both several times from about 3 feet high (crappy belt clips), and they still work.

I read in another thread that Peter Jackson had some vibration problems while doing helicopter shots with the Red drive. I think it's inherent to using disk drives. That's where flash memory comes in handy.
 
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