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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

FCPX Update

Richard Luke said:
FCPX gets another boost:

http://fcp.co/final-cut-pro/news/572-sony-srmaster-4k-into-fcpx-it-is-official
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Interesting. So a 4K SR master can be injested. Then you can edit with optimized media or proxy media. Then when you are all done, instead of reconforming, relinking, importing, exporting, etc, you could set your sequence size to 4K, turn on High quality media and you will be referencing the orginal 4K.

Then,

Let's say you want to grade in RESOLVE. Send an XML to resolve and grade. Output via resolve or send XML back to FCP to link to rendered resolve media.

Sounds pretty smart to me. I'm sure all of those iMovie Pro users are just drolling now.
 
Bob Minervini said:
nice, but that's what it should have been from the beginning.
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Right.

You know. The word should is tricky. It can be used anywhere.

RED should this. RED should that. EPIC should be this. SCARLET should be that. APPLE should this. FCP X should that.

It's like saying RED ONE should have been the EPIC from the begining.

It don't fucking matter. It is what it is.



David
 
David Battistella said:
Right.

You know. The word should is tricky. It can be used anywhere.

RED should this. RED should that. EPIC should be this. SCARLET should be that. APPLE should this. FCP X should that.

It's like saying RED ONE should have been the EPIC from the begining.

It don't fucking matter. It is what it is.

David
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Amen David.

Let go of the past and embrace the now :)
 
David Battistella said:
Read this thread.

It went from people sharing information to people hating on Apple.

If you want to drop a hate on, start a new thread and keep this one clean.

While there are people who are learning and using the software others still want to hit it with a baseball bat.

I get it, but its been to many months to carry all that anger.
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+1001

thanks to you David ... and Trevor ... :-)
 
Bruce Allen said:
From Larry Jordan:

"Retaining In and Out points for clips in the Event Browser is undergoing a debate in Apple."
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Funny I had my first FCPX class (as an instructor) last night. Fresh new students with no idea of the hate thats going on.
I was worried when I got to the In/Out option but with a little of explanation they were fine with it and no one accidentally deselected.
Saving grace is they all came from a basic FCP7 class so they had some idea of the differences but not enough to grow fear.
Please keep in mind that I teach a basic course for hobbyists and beginners.
 
patrick G said:
I think we all figured that when a MAJOR overhaul of a software takes place like this that there would be significant changes. The reaction given to those changes was a little harsh considering the revolution in terms of EDITING are concerned. Discontinuing and initial communication of FCP 7 aside, it was necessary. I think the reaction time was pretty incredible on Apple's part in reassuring it's customers everything would be ok. The updates came as promised, even quicker than ANY other company could have imagined being able to do. I've enjoyed editing in FCP 7 for a number of years and after a little adjusting time have really liked whats been done in FCX. With todays update, which is just the start, I'm going to be able to finish even more projects now in FCX. In all seriousness, its only been a few short months since its launch. Now we can look forward to R3D support coming from RED, just like they did before with FCP 7. This is only good news and will only get better.
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Nice, its now being slanged FCX instead of FCPX the "P" was removed from the application.. hehe.. (the laugh is sarcastic btw)



David Battistella said:
Media stems looks like it is poised to be the new kind of digital deliverable...

Also, being able to actually name audio tracks and send them to audio post will make things a bit easier I think.
Nice.
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you can do this in a very old version of PPRO prior to CS4 I think.. happy with Apple giving us few years ago option?


Trevor Meier said:
We get it. A lot of people hate FCPX... fine, good. I want you to have your opinion.

For the rest of us who see its potential and want to make it great (remember Red One Build 12, anyone?) can we please be constructive around here?
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RED and Apple are completely different Animals... RED is a conceptional company for professionals, Apple is a conceptional company for consumers.. come on, they had enough years to bring a bullet proof app.. but, where is it?
btw, the most intresting thing of FCPX for me is its interface, and tagging.. though it doesn't solve my problems.. I love opening FCPX at a post-house from time to time to play with it, really enjoyable.. waiting for the years it becomes usuable in my workflows..


David Battistella said:
Read this thread.

It went from people sharing information to people hating on Apple.

If you want to drop a hate on, start a new thread and keep this one clean.

While there are people who are learning and using the software others still want to hit it with a baseball bat.

I get it, but its been to many months to carry all that anger.
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I think this whole thread should be moved to DVXuser or other non-RED forum, FCPX is not listed as RED workflow application, no one ever announced it will ever support RED material (please someone corrects me if I'm wrong on this one), also its limited to 4K resolution in the world of 4.5K+ .. so, people that used FCP for years (in thi forum) should (in the first place) be shouting to Apple (as much as they can) till they get a professional application that supports 4K+ RED material, possibly with some "work arounds".. why should RED users bother with FCPX NOW?

I admit my anti apple motives, but, why? this is because I thought from the super meet presentation that apple really will change how we do things on the editing stage, but, apparantly, I and many people were disappointed.. weren't you?
 
Mohammed El Sharqawy said:
...I think this whole thread should be moved to DVXuser or other non-RED forum, FCPX is not listed as RED workflow application, no one ever announced it will ever support RED material (please someone corrects me if I'm wrong on this one), also its limited to 4K resolution in the world of 4.5K+ .. so, people that used FCP for years (in thi forum) should (in the first place) be shouting to Apple (as much as they can) till they get a professional application that supports 4K+ RED material, possibly with some "work arounds".. why should RED users bother with FCPX NOW?

I admit my anti apple motives, but, why? this is because I thought from the super meet presentation that apple really will change how we do things on the editing stage, but, apparantly, I and many people were disappointed.. weren't you?
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Freedom of speech is welcome here at RED. If RED deems this post (that I started) to be of bad taste and has no merit of being posted here, they would have deleted it at the start.

So much passion on this release, they really should make a movie out of it :)
 
@Mohammed

I guess it just come down to some people are Macs, some are PCs. Some people are positive, some people are not. Some people embrace new ideas (like RED), some do not.

Even Jim recently stated, 5k acquisition, 4k delivery, red ray, etc.

4k finish make sense in some applications.

This is all so old. If people want to stay with an older style of editing good for them. The only thing I don't appreciate is that people ahit on me for my personal creative choices. If you want to make a film in Super8 I'm not going to tell you what to do.
 
Eric Santiago said:
Freedom of speech is welcome here at RED. If RED deems this post (that I started) to be of bad taste and has no merit of being posted here, they would have deleted it at the start.

So much passion on this release, they really should make a movie out of it :)
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I never meant to deny your right for free speech.. it was just an example..
and looking forward to see your movie :-)



David Battistella said:
@Mohammed

I guess it just come down to some people are Macs, some are PCs. Some people are positive, some people are not. Some people embrace new ideas (like RED), some do not.

Even Jim recently stated, 5k acquisition, 4k delivery, red ray, etc.

4k finish make sense in some applications.

This is all so old. If people want to stay with an older style of editing good for them. The only thing I don't appreciate is that people ahit on me for my personal creative choices. If you want to make a film in Super8 I'm not going to tell you what to do.
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I give you that.. you're right..
 
David Battistella said:
If you want to make a film in Super8 I'm not going to tell you what to do.
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Ha! I want to make a movie in Super8!

A friend found some old Super8 cameras and sent them to me as a gift, and I'm just dying to use them!

That said, its hard to use a format that at best can give a 1080p scan today, even though that would be some really cool filmy 1080p. Also its expensive for me to indulge my goofing around ... and not sharp enough to use on most paid projects that don't specifically call for that look.

So ... sadly they sit on a shelf.

So ... getting back on topic:

I think the FCP X update is a huge step in the right direction. I've always contended this is a 1.0 product, despite the version number written in the about box.

Other things will start reading .fcpxml files, probably sooner rather than later.
 
Alexander Ibrahim said:
Ha! I want to make a movie in Super8!

A friend found some old Super8 cameras and sent them to me as a gift, and I'm just dying to use them!

That said, its hard to use a format that at best can give a 1080p scan today, even though that would be some really cool filmy 1080p. Also its expensive for me to indulge my goofing around ... and not sharp enough to use on most paid projects that don't specifically call for that look.

So ... sadly they sit on a shelf.
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Well this needs a special topic by itself.. I enjoyed making one few years ago, the max I could get was 720p like from ASA 50 film.. sadly we used telecine to SD that what was available, 720p was tests using macro lenses to shoot it backlit.. but, the nostalgia is amazing.. it looks beautiful.. in another thread I may speak more about experiencing Super 8...
 
Mohammed El Sharqawy said:
Well this needs a special topic by itself.. I enjoyed making one few years ago, the max I could get was 720p like from ASA 50 film.. sadly we used telecine to SD that what was available, 720p was tests using macro lenses to shoot it backlit.. but, the nostalgia is amazing.. it looks beautiful.. in another thread I may speak more about experiencing Super 8...
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There is a place that claims to be able to get 1080p out of them, but I read that while you certainly get 1080 files, they are really more like HDV, or 720p as you say, resolution ... but hey, that would be good enough if I get the look.
 
I've shot 8mm a couple of times for weddings. We often get the files back scanned at 1080p, but I can say that they don't resolve anywhere near that - I think even 720p is a stretch. They are a cool look though - resolution isn't really the point of shooting 8mm :P
 
Here is a hint for a 4k super 8 transfer.

Set the RED to 18fps. Rig a projector to a mirror and fill as much if the 4k frame as you can. You will get pillarbox, but when you squeeze it down it might look pretty good.

Anybody up for trying this?

I also have two super eight cameras and am pretty addicted to the super8 iPhone app. Very cool possibilities there. Already made a few films with that while I wait for epic x.


David
 
Aaaaaaand... Back on topic....

Curious to hear from Deanan if/when they plan on using some of the new SDK goodness to give us a native Red workflow in FCPX? Really makes sense given the upcoming release of Scarlet. Many, many of those users will have reason to use FCPX as a fast & fluid edit tool. The concepts are there (original media, optimised media, proxy, all automatically generated in the background with no relinking).

So... Deanan? What do you think?
 
Trevor Meier said:
Aaaaaaand... Back on topic....

Curious to hear from Deanan if/when they plan on using some of the new SDK goodness to give us a native Red workflow in FCPX? Really makes sense given the upcoming release of Scarlet. Many, many of those users will have reason to use FCPX as a fast & fluid edit tool. The concepts are there (original media, optimised media, proxy, all automatically generated in the background with no relinking).

So... Deanan? What do you think?
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Trevor, Deanan answered this in another thread.


Deanan said:
FCPX 10.0.1 had "Export" support, not import.

It's the Import one that will enable us to add R3D support.
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Here
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?64450-How-import-R3D-files-into-new-Final-Cut-Pro-X/page3&highlight=Deanan+SDK
 
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