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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Ergo...

Jim,

I'll agree with Hunterrichards that anything Aaton is a good reference for balance, but I have to say that the old Arricam LT was one of the most comfortable cameras I have used over the years. It may have been a combination of the relative position of everything, but it was a very comfortable rig to work with for extended periods. Likewise the 235 is very comfortable. I do however tend to favor the LT for reasons I can't really qualify... it may just be a personal thing, both are comfortable.

I'm excited to get to use the new Epic if only for the additional latitude and resolving power we'll get from the new sensor with UP's and MP's, but improved ergos would be much appreciated.

I love the R1 but it is painful after a hour on the shoulder, especially with heavy optics and a drive and battery. I have taken to using a belt clip just to offload what weight I can so I can save some strain on my already bad shoulder.

Now I know you were asking about balance, but general comfort has always been a bigger concern for me when shooting, so here's my $0.02.

...all I have is a grab from my old copy of the ArricamLT and 235 manuals. Mitch at Abel can probably tell you what one of these is worth.. as I recall about 125k euros for the LT body, 12k for the mag, the handles were 1500ish or the complete shoulder kit was something like 3700 with the handles and the shoulder pad and the remote run button. Replacement pads are just a couple hundred or so. Handgrip alone with the remote switch was just over 500. As for the 235, no idea, I bet around 40k, they are WAY cheaper than a LT setup.

As I mentioned, the LT is my favorite, but the 235 is also a damn easy rig to have on your shoulder all day.

Note the well placed run button on the right handgrip on the LT images. This would be a nice accessory for all the cameras. The cable was just long enough to let you position the handle where you needed it. You may also notice the power, on/off and accessory connector on the right side of the camera facing well back instead of out the side of the camera. This was tucked back beside the mag although it may be tough to see here. This made it pretty tough to snag cables and it was generally a pretty good thing.

I noticed epic's IO was all facing out the side and this was always a bit of a pain with the R1.

The LT and 235 aren't perfect cameras but I would never complain about using them, they're solid and I never felt like I had been beat up by the teamsters when I went home at night regardless of how long one was on my shoulder.

Hope that's helpful.

:J
 
JonathanF said:
Jim,

I'll agree with Hunterrichards that anything Aaton is a good reference for balance, but I have to say that the old Arricam LT was one of the most comfortable cameras I have used over the years. It may have been a combination of the relative position of everything, but it was a very comfortable rig to work with for extended periods. Likewise the 235 is very comfortable. I do however tend to favor the LT for reasons I can't really qualify... it may just be a personal thing, both are comfortable.

I'm excited to get to use the new Epic if only for the additional latitude and resolving power we'll get from the new sensor with UP's and MP's, but improved ergos would be much appreciated.

I love the R1 but it is painful after a hour on the shoulder, especially with heavy optics and a drive and battery. I have taken to using a belt clip just to offload what weight I can so I can save some strain on my already bad shoulder.

Now I know you were asking about balance, but general comfort has always been a bigger concern for me when shooting, so here's my $0.02.

...all I have is a grab from my old copy of the ArricamLT and 235 manuals. Mitch at Abel can probably tell you what one of these is worth.. as I recall about 125k euros for the LT body, 12k for the mag, the handles were 1500ish or the complete shoulder kit was something like 3700 with the handles and the shoulder pad and the remote run button. Replacement pads are just a couple hundred or so. Handgrip alone with the remote switch was just over 500. As for the 235, no idea, I bet around 40k, they are WAY cheaper than a LT setup.

As I mentioned, the LT is my favorite, but the 235 is also a damn easy rig to have on your shoulder all day.

Note the well placed run button on the right handgrip on the LT images. This would be a nice accessory for all the cameras. The cable was just long enough to let you position the handle where you needed it. You may also notice the power, on/off and accessory connector on the right side of the camera facing well back instead of out the side of the camera. This was tucked back beside the mag although it may be tough to see here. This made it pretty tough to snag cables and it was generally a pretty good thing.

I noticed epic's IO was all facing out the side and this was always a bit of a pain with the R1.

The LT and 235 aren't perfect cameras but I would never complain about using them, they're solid and I never felt like I had been beat up by the teamsters when I went home at night regardless of how long one was on my shoulder.

Hope that's helpful.

:J
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Here are a few threads worth reading on the subject.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15869
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24030
 
Brooke,

Dude, those posts are epic.. I could not have possibly said it better.

I shot with a camera that looked pretty much like that at 8000 ft in the Himalaya for 2 days, 6-8 hours a day with it on my shoulder, mounted with MP's, I felt like I had had my ass kicked by the NY Jets defensive line for a week when I was done.

Drinks on me next time I'm in LA.

:J
 
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