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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

" EPOCH " Shot by Christopher Probst on RED MONSTRO 8K

Christopher Probst said:
Aaron, which version did you try? YouTube or Vimeo? We have a great debate going on which has less banding... Though I hate Vimeo, for me I see less on that version. It's a total gut punch when this thing looks exquisite in 4K...
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Just curious, why do you hate Vimeo?
 
Christopher Probst said:
Aaron, which version did you try? YouTube or Vimeo? We have a great debate going on which has less banding... Though I hate Vimeo, for me I see less on that version. It's a total gut punch when this thing looks exquisite in 4K...
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I watched both versions, actually. Vimeo looked superior to my eyes. But I always have streaming problems with Vimeo even on gigabit fiber. It managed to play smoothly for me on this one, though.

Jarred Land said:
Take a drive up to LA, and watch it in our theater at the studio in all it's glory :)
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I might have to for the Hydrogen sneak peak anyway! Might as well make a trip out of it and add on all the other RED goodness. :)
 
Very cool man. Really dig the underkey choices throughout. Very ambitious VFX work in there too.
 
Christopher Probst said:
Aaron, which version did you try? YouTube or Vimeo? We have a great debate going on which has less banding... Though I hate Vimeo, for me I see less on that version. It's a total gut punch when this thing looks exquisite in 4K...
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The Vimeo looked a lot better for me... I started watching the YouTube as a comparison and the banding was immediately obvious against the near blacks ... Almost unwatchable IMO and stopped play, even though I wanted to watch it again (watched it first time on VIMEO). I'm in the middle of nowhere and using my ACER (pretty large) predator gaming/programming/ graphics capable laptop.

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Whoring side note: These whole set of sequences and scenes would be beyond perfect for H4V. The range of distances and contained spaces for most of shots... + mega texture...
 
Thanks Eric, valuable feedback. Banding drives me crazy! A bit of a let down on YouTube's part. The 4K output is completely banding free, so if we are able to arrange some 4K screenings for the Hydrogen day and around CineGear, it'd be great to show it off in 5.1 and 4K at the Red theater...
 
Aaron Lochert said:
I watched both versions, actually. Vimeo looked superior to my eyes. But I always have streaming problems with Vimeo even on gigabit fiber. It managed to play smoothly for me on this one, though.



I might have to for the Hydrogen sneak peak anyway! Might as well make a trip out of it and add on all the other RED goodness. :)
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Aaron Lochert said:
I watched both versions, actually. Vimeo looked superior to my eyes. But I always have streaming problems with Vimeo
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Same here I normally avoid Vimeo for the same reason and I have really pretty crappy bandwidth (in the middle of no-where) off my T-moble/ hotspot / samsung tablet and I was surprised how SMOOTH and immediate the VIMEO feed was this time too...

Are we looking at new secret sauce/ secret source here :-)
 
Christopher Probst said:
Thanks Eric, valuable feedback. Banding drives me crazy! A bit of a let down on YouTube's part. The 4K output is completely banding free, so if we are able to arrange some 4K screenings for the Hydrogen day and around CineGear, it'd be great to show it off in 5.1 and 4K at the Red theater...
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OOHHH mannn I would love that so much... I was hoping someone would offer! (I'm sometimes a bit bashful for asking for things)...!!! That would be pure magic. Thanks!

Really is a feast for the eyes AND very very useful indeed ... ( you have no idea); and remarkable how much you guys busted your arses on this on the actual shoot to bring it in in such a short time... !
 
Youtube was only giving me 1080 playback so I too hoped over to Vimeo and watched it in 4K. Gonna have to fire up my apple TV and 4K laster projector to really experience all it's glory, but this is some killer stuff Chris...literally. Loved how the anamorphic shots cut so well with spherical. Everything was just superb!
 
Red theatre sounds amazing !!! / very very sweet indeed.

I'd sit in, stay longer for a "Director's" commentary type thing... Play it once then replay, stop /start/ pause / play and talk through maybe how some of the key / deceptively simple yet very tricky sequences came together.
 
Chris, great work as always. What sets it apart for me is the ability to use what you have, and still make world class stuff. I also dig that you are willing to share all the BTS stuff that I just drool over. A masterclass every time. In fact, I wish you could do something like one of these online Masterclasses, they pretty much rock. https://www.masterclass.com Would be great to have a kind of REDucation that could be tuition based, and online!!!
 
Michael Wahba said:
What'd you do for audio?
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We anything that had the Ritter fans going was completely useless, so that was a rebuild in post by our sound designer Ken Cain. There was a pretty extensive sound design throughout the film in fact, as there is so little dialog. It also wove in and out with the score which was fairly tonal and atmospheric as well.
 
Eric Lange said:
Same here I normally avoid Vimeo for the same reason and I have really pretty crappy bandwidth (in the middle of no-where) off my T-moble/ hotspot / samsung tablet and I was surprised how SMOOTH and immediate the VIMEO feed was this time too...

Are we looking at new secret sauce/ secret source here :-)
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We tried various sources from DNX to Prores and the Prores resulted in a significantly cleaner compression on Vimeo than the DNX 4K source did. We're talking 100GB+ files uploaded... We didn't experiment as much on YouTube and fed it the same Prores output source.
 
Christopher Probst said:
Thanks Eric, valuable feedback. Banding drives me crazy! A bit of a let down on YouTube's part. The 4K output is completely banding free, so if we are able to arrange some 4K screenings for the Hydrogen day and around CineGear, it'd be great to show it off in 5.1 and 4K at the Red theater...
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Not on Hydrogen day, but Cinegear for sure.
 
Eric Lange said:
Red theatre sounds amazing !!! / very very sweet indeed.

I'd sit in, stay longer for a "Director's" commentary type thing... Play it once then replay, stop /start/ pause / play and talk through maybe how some of the key / deceptively simple yet very tricky sequences came together.
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Perhaps we can try to pull some of Epoch's team for a CineGear screening/Q&A... Just depends on timing and work schedules.


Scot Yount said:
Chris, great work as always. What sets it apart for me is the ability to use what you have, and still make world class stuff. I also dig that you are willing to share all the BTS stuff that I just drool over. A masterclass every time. In fact, I wish you could do something like one of these online Masterclasses, they pretty much rock. https://www.masterclass.com Would be great to have a kind of REDucation that could be tuition based, and online!!!
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Scot, did you catch all my blathering on for the ASC's Instagram feed?
 
Christopher Probst said:
Perhaps we can try to pull some of Epoch's team for a CineGear screening/Q&A... Just depends on timing and work schedules.




Scot, did you catch all my blathering on for the ASC's Instagram feed?
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I did not...let me look that up...but do tell.
 
Scot, they are freekin NOVELS there. I'm not about to "sum up" for ya... BUT, you're in for a long read my friend. Shouldn't be too hard to find my posts, they were last month on the ASC's feed.
 
Christopher Probst said:
Scot, they are freekin NOVELS there. I'm not about to "sum up" for ya... BUT, you're in for a long read my friend. Shouldn't be too hard to find my posts, they were last month on the ASC's feed.
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I know your ethic and I embrace it....I am searching every post...you once wrote a very long post very early in the morning (I think) about being asked something that the poster could easily have looked up. I will do my own looking...thanks for that push.
 
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