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I know that the Epic can be rigged to light and ultra lights modes. But I am wondering what a fully rigged Epic-x for a feature film production will weight in. (ie studio rig with all the modules)

Trying to figure what tripod will do the trick for an epic with primes (no zooms).

Pro IO MOD
Brain
Red Mode
Batteries and Mod
5 inch touch screen (i heard the 2.8 screen has been scrapped)
(am I missing anything here?)
 
I have to wonder just how necessary the Pro I/O module is...certainly not needed for sound on a big film, and the brain already has HDMI and HD-SDI out. AFAIK Spiderman hasn't been using an I/O module, and it's been doing fine.
 
The I/O module is totally unnecessary for feature filmmaking. You can capture your guide track through one of the 1/8" jacks on the front. Throw on a tiny shotgun and you're off to the races.
 
I suspect that it would depend on what other kinds of accessories (besides the ones you listed) you're going to have on the camera. Such as an EVF or an on camera light, etc. My guess would be that a 22 lbs capacity tripod would do great. From what I understand the camera won't weight that much, but planning for more is always a good idea.
 
My initial thoughts that once you have all of the goodies on it it would come in around 35 lbs (with the RPPS). I.E. FIZ motors and possibly wireless video.
 
Anyone can direct me to the post with the diagram of the bottom of the Epic? The one that shows which diameter threads (e.g. 3/8" & 1/4") and the distance between each?
I don't mean the one with the dimensions http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54155
 
Just found it. I even started this thread: http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53112
I read the answers to it and I wonder:
1. A few more thousands of USD for new accessories (base plate, a riser, viewfinder, batteries, chargers etc.) for the Epic make the its price getting closer to the Alexa? With the Alexa you just mount your old V-mount battery or plug in your Arriflex film cameras' 24V brick batteries.
2. What is the point of having two 3/8" threads at a 25mm distance between each.
3. One of the accessories we will need is a riser as the height on the bottom/back is only 28mm (see attached image) and there are quite a few connectors there. 28mm is pretty annoying to plug a BNC etc. (I can imagine the accessory block by ET).
Anyone knows how an old school Arri FF-4 will work on the camera? Is there a priority for another follow focus like the O'connor CFF-1?
Thanks
 

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Boy was I tired last night, and didn't quite "finish" my post. I'm editing it instead of making a new post.

Stephen Strangways posted a picture of what looks to be an ET designed Rod/Riser attachment in this thread:
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=51374

Here's some diagrams I came up with to see how the different rods might intersect with the Epic body:

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You will want the I/O module if you want the Bomb and the touchscreen working at the same time...

It really is very light and yes you will need a riser in most cases but that adds very little weight.
 
Carey Lee Coffey said:
The I/O module is totally unnecessary for feature filmmaking.
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You're right that it's not really needed for audio (although the robustness of XLR connectors vs 3.5mm jacks is worth it alone, with a big enough budget), but you'll absolutely want it on any decent-sized job as it allows for different monitoring options (looks, guides, clean frame, raw, etc) for several different feeds - so clients get a clean frame with the look applied, operator gets frame guides plus tally and maybe a few other bits and pieces depending on preferences, DP gets RAW view or whatever they prefer, AC gets the full monty, etc...

Cheers,
Dom.

EDIT: Oh, plus what Peter said! :)
 
Since the EPIC body weighs about 5 lbs less than the R1 body, my guess is once you add in the weight of all your accessories, there won't be a whole lot of difference for feature work. If a rigged out R1 is 35 lbs, a fully configured EPIC will probably be 30-33 lbs allowing for a module or two. I can't wait to rig out my EPIC to find out for sure.
 
Larry McKee said:
Since the EPIC body weighs about 5 lbs less than the R1 body, my guess is once you add in the weight of all your accessories, there won't be a whole lot of difference for feature work. If a rigged out R1 is 35 lbs, a fully configured EPIC will probably be 30-33 lbs allowing for a module or two. I can't wait to rig out my EPIC to find out for sure.
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I should have brought a scale to RED Day April '10...

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Larry McKee said:
Since the EPIC body weighs about 5 lbs less than the R1 body, my guess is once you add in the weight of all your accessories, there won't be a whole lot of difference for feature work. If a rigged out R1 is 35 lbs, a fully configured EPIC will probably be 30-33 lbs allowing for a module or two. I can't wait to rig out my EPIC to find out for sure.
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Remember that with the new SSD cards and the smaller Red Volt batteries, you will also be losing the awkward and heavy Red cradle hanging off the back. My guess is we'll be able to shave off closer to 7 or 8 pounds with the Epic.
 
You may be right. My fear is we may go back to the brick batteries because we find the Red Volts won't power the camera and accessories as long as we would like. Got my fingers crossed that they surprise me.
 
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