EPIC-S...

[paulherrin]

steve, i think you're trying to ask if there would be a completely redesigned version of the epic-s using the dragon sensor...? but that would become a new camera, and doesn't make much sense to me... but i wouldn't ever complain about any potential options.

haha, jarek...

so i have to say that all of these offerings are really attractive, and i also want to mention generous... thanks for the info jim, and everything else.

 

[Steve Johnson]

Paul, yeah that's what I was meaning, but I guess from Jim's post, there must be some electronic differences between X and S. It no biggy. I was just wondering. Still doesn't detrack from the fact that its an amazing deal for the price, nothing comes close. EPIC-S will be a great A or B camera

But then it dawned on me that TED also mentioned that RED wouldn't comment on New products until they where ready.

steve, i think you're trying to ask if there would be a completely redesigned version of the epic-s using the dragon
sensor...? but that would become a new camera, and doesn't make much sense to me... but i wouldn't ever complain about any potential options.

haha, jarek...

so i have to say that all of these offerings are really attractive, and i also want to mention generous... thanks for the info jim, and everything else.

 

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

Thanks for the update, Jim.
So if I understand correctly, the schedule of Epic-S follows Epic-X and is more or less disconnected from the Scarlet program (not FIRST Scarlet and then Epic-S, right?)

 

[paulherrin]

Paul, yeah that's what I was meaning, but I guess from Jim's post, there must be some electronic differences between X and S. It no biggy. I was just wondering. Still doesn't detrack from the fact that its an amazing deal for the price, nothing comes close. EPIC-S will be a great A or B camera

But then it dawned on me that TED also mentioned that RED wouldn't comment on New products until they where ready.

right, well the epic-x has more electronic boards to do what it does. and i'm really thinking the epic-s is just pulling out some of those extra guts to get towards the necessities. that just brings in some limitations comparatively.

 

[Steve Johnson]

right, well the epic-x has more electronic boards to do what it does. and i'm really thinking the epic-s is just pulling out some of those extra guts to get towards the necessities. that just brings in some limitations comparatively.

Agreed. Still such an awesome product and like I said, if you need the higher frame rates or any of the features of the X theyou can always hire one. I think independent filmmakers with 2 EPIC-S is going to be amazing and cost effective for a long time to come.

 

[Steve Johnson]

Thanks for the update, Jim.
So if I understand correctly, the schedule of Epic-S follows Epic-X and is more or less disconnected from the Scarlet program (not FIRST Scarlet and then Epic-S, right?)

I think that's correct Mathieu.

 

[fALk Gärtner]

Thanks for the head up I have an intermediate cam for now (600D) so take you time and make it right - if I have it in my hands by beginning of next year I am happy - but maybe I might do an X by then Thanks so much for opening up your mind and thoughts and plans - much appriciated.

As for the fps discussion - it seems all geared toward 24fps film and 30fps stuff with multipliers (48/60) - I am in HDPAL land most productions go to TV :/ will we have 25/50 fps options on the epics (scarlets)?

 

[Max M.]

Great news! Will the dimensions be the same as epic-m?

And 12-13k will be the brain only i presume, are there also going to be basic shooting kits including for example ssd media? Or would it be better to order some accessoires in advance?

 

[paulherrin]

Thanks for the update, Jim.
So if I understand correctly, the schedule of Epic-S follows Epic-X and is more or less disconnected from the Scarlet program (not FIRST Scarlet and then Epic-S, right?)

i asked the same question... i think there are some variables up in the air, my guess is that epic-s and scarlet might be rolling out around the same general time frame.

 

[Steve Johnson]

Thanks for the head up I have an intermediate cam for now (600D) so take you time and make it right - if I have it in my hands by beginning of next year I am happy - but maybe I might do an X by then Thanks so much for opening up your mind and thoughts and plans - much appriciated.

As for the fps discussion - it seems all geared toward 24fps film and 30fps stuff with multipliers (48/60) - I am in HDPAL land most productions go to TV :/ will we have 25/50 fps options on the epics (scarlets)?

I believe EPIC-M does 25fps so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

 

[Steve Johnson]

Great news! Will the dimensions be the same as epic-m?

And 12-13k will be the brain only i presume, are there also going to be basic shooting kits including for example ssd media? Or would it be better to order some accessoires in advance?

Max, from previous posts, I think they are now using the same chassis as the EPIC-X just with some different internal electronics. So it would be the same size yes.

 

[paulherrin]

yeah, no worries about the other standards, you'll have options. there's plenty of people finishing in PAL format already i'm sure.

 

[Steve Johnson]

i asked the same question... i think there are some variables up in the air, my guess is that epic-s and scarlet might be rolling out around the same general time frame.

Still up Paul?

 

[Steve Johnson]

yeah, no worries about the other standards, you'll have options. there's plenty of people finishing in PAL format already i'm sure.

I am pretty sure Ketch would confirm this. After all, he's in Italy and using #00008

 

[paulherrin]

Max, from previous posts, I think they are now using the same chassis as the EPIC-X just with some different internal electronics. So it would be the same size yes.

as far as i know i'll second that. that seems like the plan. it will likely weigh a little bit less, which is really good for some applications, and another reason for them to make it.

 

[paulherrin]

Still up Paul?

yeah i know, i'm going to bed... this is ridiculous. haha. my dogs been sleeping this whole time beside me and is going to want to go outside soon. luckily i don't have much to do tomorrow. oh wait, yeah i do i'll catch up sometime. thanks for the reminder. nice chillin with y'all

 

[Max M.]

Thanks for the reply Steve. I also thought that, but is also thought epic-m was slightly bigger than epic-x. My main interest would be if stuff like brooke's custom topplate would fit exactly on the epic-s also?

Another question: will it share the same input/output connection options with the m and x?

 

[paulherrin]

yeah, i believe the m is slightly bigger as they are changing a few things for the production line. okay. see you guys. and, yes I/O

 

[Steve Johnson]

Nice chatting Paul. Night!

 

[Steve Johnson]

Thanks for the reply Steve. I also thought that, but is also thought epic-m was slightly bigger than epic-x. My main interest would be if stuff like brooke's custom topplate would fit exactly on the epic-s also?

Another question: will it share the same input/output connection options with the m and x?

Max, I think there are one or two difference if I remember. I think the S has HDMI output where X and M have HDMI and HDSDI. Not sure on the other specs. It's been a while since the specs where originally out and I would expects them to change - after all everything changes - see Jim's tagline.

Everything with a ping of salt until Jim posts, and even then, things can change! ;-)
I think Brooks top plate will be okay for S but that's better for Brook to answer when the time comes. I am sure if it's different, he will design and manufacture one or he might make one to custom order ;-)