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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

EPIC missed spec...

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Jarred Land said:
remember.. both DSMC battery modules ( the 4 bank and 2 bank ) are hot swappable solutions.. you never need to turn the camera off during the day if you have enough batteries to keep it going.

When one battery dies it switches over to the next one automatically.
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Cool...

By the way, can you give an estimate on how long a completely depleted REDVOLT battery takes to fully charge?

thanks Jarred,
 
Shane Betts said:
But, with integrated hot-swap capabilities, you will just need to keep feeding it batteries as you lie in wait.
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Shane, I'm afraid it's not at all this trivial for wildlife shooters. The critical issue is that one has to carry all equipments into difficult places and one has to make compromises. Just think what you need to stay 3 to 4 days in row in a hide and you want to be able to react immediately when something happens.

Nevertheless, best image quality imply compromises elsewhere so 10-15 seconds with a sleep mode is much better than existing options and personally I welcome and highly appreciate the improvements. Epic and Scarlet will be the best tools available for wildlife shooting. And it's exciting there are already working prototypes.
 
If you thought about using your Epic like your Nikon, it is an issue.

I never switch off my D700 and would have missed a lot of street photography if I´d have to wait for 10 seconds. But I guess a reasonably kitted out Epic is not something you´d lug around for very long. Even with Nikkor lenses.

But in any other situation 10 sec are fine.

Jochen
 
I was on an industrial shoot a couple of weeks ago and my clients wanted to shoot with their XL-2 (to save a few pennies on camera rental). It took 5 or 6 seconds to turn on. I figure an additional 4 to 5 seconds to get 27 times more resolution is a fair trade off.
 
I was shooting on an XLH1 the other day (not my choice) and it would take a few seconds for the tape to get up to speed, at least 3 sometimes 5 seconds. And that's after you hit record with the camera on!
 
thanks Deanan, and...just the way you put it, Lauri...

thanks Deanan, and...just the way you put it, Lauri...

Lauri Kettunen said:
Shane, I'm afraid it's not at all this trivial for wildlife shooters. The critical issue is that one has to carry all equipments into difficult places and one has to make compromises. Just think what you need to stay 3 to 4 days in row in a hide and you want to be able to react immediately when something happens.

Nevertheless, best image quality imply compromises elsewhere so 10-15 seconds with a sleep mode is much better than existing options and personally I welcome and highly appreciate the improvements. Epic and Scarlet will be the best tools available for wildlife shooting. And it's exciting there are already working prototypes.
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... it's obvious wildlife shooting requirements sometimes go bypassed or slightly misunderstood here, and may be look a bit fussy. Taking that kind of typical feature movie camera out of the stage and all the way up there where you'd better be alone is something special to some of us. Some kind of wildlife images/terrain/subjects can stand some people around to help, true... Not all of them. However, it's all a matter of compromise, as you say.

The compromise on the red one was a questionable one at times, especially when... climbing up. Never so when watching the dailies. The present one, 10sec boot-up time + sleep mode should do the job perfectly. Knocking wood. Fact is a sleep mode was an almost promised spec on the red one in the early days. I'd feel comfortable, should the Epic enable/take it as a real must.

Can someone at Red give an insight into whether further specs and features are likely to increase the initial boot-up time ? To me, it seems that the boot-up time of my red one has not significantly gone up with later builds...
 
For the market that the Red One currently appeals to, it doesn't seem like this would be a problem at all.

For the much larger market that the 2/3" Scarlet could potentially appeal to, 10–15 seconds will be a noticeable and probably much-noticed issue. That said, out of all the features that the 2/3" Scarlet could lose to the "competition" on, this one seems like it would matter very little, and the 2/3" Scarlet is still positioned to kick everyone else off the playing field in most other regards.
 
My stand on this is: RED is challenging themselves to make the best camera possible and therefore set themselves high aims. Other companies might not even bother...
15 sec will do just fine.
 
15 seconds really doesn't mean anything, do think about re-roll the camera alist took more than a min, for the focus puller double check the focus might take another min, and what about lighting adjustment... I feel good enough for me......

Cheers
 
An old mantra I like is "Aim for the stars, you probably will never reach them, but you'll never be stuck in the mud".

RED's concept specs are traditionally optimistic for a reason. Fuck conservatism.
 
My only real bummer with the R1 start up time is the great shot I have of the grizzly going away. The camera was booting when he charged me. 10 sec would have probably gotten the shot, though if I hadn't been staring into the EVF and cursing the Red logo obscuring my vision, I might have had the sense to run away.
 
James Brundige said:
My only real bummer with the R1 start up time is the great shot I have of the grizzly going away. The camera was booting when he charged me. 10 sec would have probably gotten the shot, though if I hadn't been staring into the EVF and cursing the Red logo obscuring my vision, I might have had the sense to run away.
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Spoken like a true videographer. This is why there has often been such a high loss ratio among combat cameramen.
 
This is pretty easy stuff. We posted the change so that if this was really a major problem for you... you could look at other options.

I think the banter is about done here.

Jim
 
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