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Epic a Phantom Killer?

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I brought this up over on the Scarletuser forums, so I thought I'd bring it up over here too. But if Epic can record 100fps at 5K, then how many fps can it record at in 4K, 3K, and 2K. If it's like the Red One where the frame rate doubles at each level of resolution (4K=30fps, 3K=60fps, 2K=120fps) then we could have a Phantom Killer on our hands with Epic. I'm not even interested in buying Epic (way too expensive) but I was just throwing this out there out of personal curiosity.
 
We bring on all comers. If it can perform at the actual specs you describe then of course there are a bunch of other specs that begin to come into play. MTF, Dynamic Range, Uncompressed RAW recording, sustained recording via CineMags, etc.

The EPIC sounds like an interesting camera but until there is hard data and not speculation then it's all just a guessing game, right?
 
Phantom killer?

I doubt that. The Phantom has crazy frame rates and is a decent camera. While I am chomping at the bit for Epic, phantom is it's own beast. Just like a 416 or an A-minima.
cheers
 
Epic will be the "fill_in_the_blank" Killer. ;)
 
Tom said:
Epic will be the "fill_in_the_blank" Killer. ;)
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Hi Tom,

Well you were only prepaired to bet a maximium of $100 on that prediction over c@.com.

Doesn't sound to me you are really convinced at all.

Stephen
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi Tom,

Well you were only prepaired to bet a maximium of $100 on that prediction over c@.com.

Doesn't sound to me you are really convinced at all.

Stephen
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I didn't want to eviscerate your life-savings. :)
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi Tom,

Well you were only prepaired to bet a maximium of $100 on that prediction over c@.com.

Doesn't sound to me you are really convinced at all.

Stephen
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I'm curious what you think a "real" bet is... there are higher stakes at my table. :-)

Jim
 
Go for it Tom!

If you go by the very scientific method of how big data flow will be, and factor in the "genius billionaire" variable, I'll bet the Epic'll handle 2500 fps @ HD720, thus beating the crap out of the Phantom :)
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hey Jim,

Are your interested in a bet based on a percentage on net worth? That would even the stakes!

My best

Stephen

Edit Tom Originally proposed $20, I suggested $500, tom offered $50 that Max also accepted. You can see the rules Max outlined.
http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/index.php?s=&showtopic=32742&view=findpost&p=246040
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I have never heard that strategy at a poker table. Not sure you would find any takers. You are either in or out. :-)

Jim
 
The Red one is already the undisputed marketleader in the 35mm (and up) space, outselling all arri, aaton, dalsa, sony and vision research mechanical and digital cameras in the 35mm/PL space combined, probably in volume and in revenue. Epic will probably only add to this marketshare.

We have won our 2006&7 bets - we didnt bet for money, but for wine & chapagne.
 
How do I get in on the bet? (Jim's side of course)
 
Deanan said:
How do I get in on the bet? (Jim's side of course)
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I'm not exactly sure what the bet is about. I do know that if the bet is big enough, we can probably make whatever it is we are betting... happen. :-)

Jim
 
A phantom Killer?

A phantom Killer?

I don't know where you get all these Red-Epic ideas but so far the Phantom with its inferior 2K ability get here much much more work than the the Red on commercials.
 
gdv said:
I don't know where you get all these Red-Epic ideas but so far the Phantom with its inferior 2K ability get here much much more work than the the Red on commercials.
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Just to go on record... we have a great deal of respect for the Phantom. We didn't start this thread. And while we are guilty of poking fun at "others" every once in awhile... never at Vision Research. I love that these guys were brave and built something important to the industry. You will never hear a bad word from RED about the Phantom.

If the "bet" was somehow connected to them, I need to read all the posts... which I haven't done. I thought the bet was a cast-over from another board and not related to the Phantom.

Jim
 
Jim,

The bet was about the majority of major Studio features with a budget over 50 million being shot digitaly AND released in the first half 2011.

Films that use a mix of film & digital or are purchased by the studios don't count.

My best,

Stephen
 
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