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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon...

Justin Nguyen said:
I mean amazing specs aside. Am I the only one excited from the fact that I can now refer to the sensor as dragon?
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You are not alone. I love the name. Just imagine having to call it ALEVIII or some printer kind of name.
 
Just want to add to how fucking awesome this is........ you nailed it.

Jannard said:
The Dragon sensor is slightly larger than the Mysterium-X sensor and the pixel size is slightly smaller. The pixel design and sensor design makes all the difference in the world.(...)
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This with every single spec going higher is the perfect scenario. Thank you for all the hard work you put into the heart of your system. I can't wait to play with one.... 15+ stops, higher sensitivity, 6k and a similar sensor size.... YES PLEASE!!
 
Jim, any plans on finding a way to remove the AA filter? That is, presuming there was one previously?
 
To those complaining about Red One upgrade paths, as Jim has put it before, the Red One upgrade is called Epic and there were several options to allow people to do so at extremely minimal cost. You can bet those guys with 16x9 Alexas won't be getting their purchase price back on a 4:3 camera. I know as well as anyone what it's like to miss the boat because you can't afford the ticket before it sails :-( but my woeful financial state certainly isn't the fault of Jim or Red.
 
Can't wait to shoot on anamorphic lenses on dragon!
 
Jannard said:
Everything is being looked at... including the Rocket.

Jim
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Huzzah...looking forward to seeing the next gen in debayering. In my opinion, ROCKET is long overdue for an overhaul. What is this technology, 4 years old, now? Ancient in RED years :rolleyes: ...time to hustle it along with everything else, both in terms of what it can do and its price point.
 
Ryan Patrick O'Hara said:
I hope they cover, mate.
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Mx 5k is 27.65 x 13.825mm
Dragon 6k is 30 x 15.8mm (according to Christopher's extrapolations)
Anamorphic I believe is: 21.95 x 18.6mm

Even with dragon we're still a little too small on the vertical dimension.
 
Agreed .
With other RAW cameras coming in the next few months, they must revisit the image processing including debayer because the image comparisons are a coming.
I've been fairly consistent in nudging the need now and then.

Meryem Ersoz said:
Huzzah...looking forward to seeing the next gen in debayering. In my opinion, ROCKET is long overdue for an overhaul. What is this technology, 4 years old, now? Ancient in RED years :rolleyes: ...time to hustle it along with everything else, both in terms of what it can do and its price point.
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Hmm, yes, even my of friends at Apertus have announced 4k project, not sure if it is raw. The point is though, despite how many people that release 4k cameras, that anybody that announces a near $10k offering needs to offer something good, because Scarlet x is already nearly $10k to start. Some of the tech I have seen out there is pretty amazing, maybe not 15 stops native for most, but up to 27 stops enhanced, with starlight ability.
 
Dennis Guskov said:
wow!
why Epic upgrade is $6000 and Scarlet is TBD? It's the same sensor, same size, same process replacing it, same everything... why differentiate?
seems like it should be the same price for all...
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Around the time the currently shipping Scarlet-X was announced it was stated that to upgrade the Scarlet to the Dragon would require replacing some of the ASICs. With Epics the upgrade (apparently) only requires changing the sensor. Thus it would cost more to upgrade the Scarlet than it would to upgrade the Epic. No one outside of RED obviously knows the specifics, so we're all just guessing here.
 
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Scarlet upgrades must be tricky. If RED charges the same percentage as the EPIC customers will pay it's gonna be more like $2000. Obviously we can't expect 6k for that, so rather than make it the price of a whole new Scarlet camera, how about an upgrade to the current EPIC 5k specs for Scarlet, once EPIC are all boosted up to 6k?
 
A 6K sensor with a lower noise floor and higher dynamic range is going to create BEAUTIFUL 4K renders!! I can't wait to get my hands on this sensor.
 
JustinC said:
Scarlet upgrades must be tricky. If RED charges the same percentage as the EPIC customers will pay it's gonna be more like $2000. Obviously we can't expect 6k for that, so rather than make it the price of a whole new Scarlet camera, how about an upgrade to the current EPIC 5k specs for Scarlet, once EPIC are all boosted up to 6k?
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Interesting...
 
You would still be paying the price of a whole new Scarlet and then some, as what you are asking for is an MX Epic.
 
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