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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon...

Jim…all I have to say is you guys just took it from 6 to midnight!

My career as a DP has also gone to midnight since I got the Red One in 2009 and now the Epic.

Philip (Sorry, I don't know why my name hasn't changed from kitersfa to Philip Roy yet?)
 
These are exciting times! Can't wait for all of these goodies to become available!
 
Nice! All of my anamorphics just became a little WIDER! Also, with the smaller pixel size, using 6K as a look around (stabilization) area makes even more sense. And the 5K will work on more lenses. Double WIN!


Jannard said:
Sensor size is 30x15.8mm. Pixel size is 5 micron.

Jim
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Taken from the Red Store (any Epic order page):

NOTE: Any collection or group of items placed as a single order that includes 1x EPIC brain and totals over $50,000 in invoiced value will receive the DRAGON sensor upgrade at no charge.
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Really?! :-)
 
ok--I hate to beat a dead horse--but I feel like with all the back and forth and guessing there has been no definitive answer to the red one saga, was the red one to epic the last physical upgrade for the red one? I love the red and have just bought one last year and was waiting for today to see if i should go MX or not--Im hoping to know officially that there will not be any more upgrades to the red one camera. Then i will go MX or buy a scarlet.
And if so may I ask why not--It seams that the sensor would fit in a red one--is it too costly?--I would pay a pretty penny for it--as i love the format and size for Red one. so can we just to be clear with serious answer, Its still a great camera and years ahead of others, I just dont want hold onto to these pipe dreams anymore.

thank you

mark
 
mark foster said:
ok--I hate to beat a dead horse--but I feel like with all the back and forth and guessing there has been no definitive answer to the red one saga, was the red one to epic the last physical upgrade for the red one? I love the red and have just bought one last year and was waiting for today to see if i should go MX or not--Im hoping to know officially that there will not be any more upgrades to the red one camera. Then i will go MX or buy a scarlet.
And if so may I ask why not--It seams that the sensor would fit in a red one--is it too costly?--I would pay a pretty penny for it--as i love the format and size for Red one. so can we just to be clear with serious answer, Its still a great camera and years ahead of others, I just dont want hold onto to these pipe dreams anymore.

Jim stated earlier that there would be NO upgrade path to the dragon for the RED ONE, it was the Epic...

thank you

mark
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Jim stated earlier that there would be NO upgrade path to the dragon for the RED ONE, it was the Epic...
 
I'm surprised no one asked for the native ISO of Dragon?
 
It's native ISO is 6k... err.... I mean... uhh... What is its native ISO? Smaller pixels on similar sized sensor usually means more noise (without noise reduction processing which RED cameras do not have.) Even if it's still ISO800, with supersampling it'll look pretty rad. Plus with 5u photosites/pixels, I'd imagine a fairly organic looking noise/grain when you push the ISO.
 
Can anyone elaborate on what the BIG SURPRISE was we as R1 owners were to see? I recall Jarred mentioned this in a thread way way back...something about selling your R1 and you'll be sorry when we.......(I thought this meant a new sensor upgrade or at least something of an upgrade path)? has anything further been said about this?
 
Johnny Friday said:
Can anyone elaborate on what the BIG SURPRISE was we as R1 owners were to see? I recall Jarred mentioned this in a thread way way back...something about selling your R1 and you'll be sorry when we.......(I thought this meant a new sensor upgrade or at least something of an upgrade path)? has anything further been said about this?
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Jim said no in another thread. I'm paraphrasing but he said the upgrade path for the R-1 was the Epic. He was also firm about the price of the IO module being $3750 (if memory serves). RED is becoming very firm. '-:)
 
Speaking of the R-1, that camera maybe isn't so "obsolete" as some people are thinking. When you consider it had such a great onboard audio solution (saving of $3750 right there from the new IO module) an MX sensor option, and will probably end up weighing less than an Epic with similar capabilities at approx. half the price, I wonder why I didn't keep at least one of mine.

Maybe it will be re-incarnated as battle tested.
 
Jon Carr said:
I'm surprised no one asked for the native ISO of Dragon?
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Great point. I'd love to know the native ISO of Dragon (1600?), and the crop factor at 6k (1.2?). What we know already is mind blowing, but it's always fun to get all the specs!
 
Nick Morrison said:
Great point. I'd love to know the native ISO of Dragon (1600?), and the crop factor at 6k (1.2?). What we know already is mind blowing, but it's always fun to get all the specs!
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I always get great results at 1280, so I would love to get that as the native ISO, but 1600 would blow everyone else out of the water!
 
Dragon Sensor for Scarlet - User suggestion

Dragon Sensor for Scarlet - User suggestion

Awesome news Red!

We are a heavy Red Scarlet User for all our productions. The quality of the Scarlet is unsurpassed. The most important remaining feature in our line of work, such as for the 2010 and 2012 Olympic coverage, is the ability to overcrank 120fps at at least 2K, otherwise we miss the action :-)

Sincerely,
Dave McMahon

Executive Producer
XCZONE.TV
Clean Oxygen Fed Sports Cinematography
 
I think this was noted either earlier in this thread or in another one, but it bears repeating for those who don't read every post.

NOTE: Any collection or group of items placed as a single order that includes 1x EPIC brain and totals over $50,000 in invoiced value will receive the DRAGON sensor upgrade at no charge.


This was brought to my attention by Reduser Denis Korotkov, a follower of Reduser since the early days.
 
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