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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon...

Jannard said:
Everything you buy in technology goes down in value the minute you buy it. We have provided a way to mitigate that loss with upgrade programs. The real way to win this game is to put your tools to work.

Jim
Scott Summers said:
Mine was bought second hand for what I figured was a fair price, but it dropped drastically quickly. I'm ok with it, it's just money, but a person can hope can't they. No need to be like that.
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Jannard said:
They were obsolete at the announcement.

Jim
Trevor Meeks said:
Meanwhile... Canon C300 customers are kicking themselves after seeing their cameras become obsolete barely after they've been delivered.
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So true :-)
 
I think at this point resolution 5k is way enough. they need to be the best at low light and other area. resolution is not everything
they need amazing low light cause sony and canon are the king now. they need to put slow motion at 4k at least for the scarlet
 
How much of the lowlight capabilities of the Canon and Sony cameras comes for in camera noise reduction?
 
Jannard said:
Actually... Red is the color of life. The color of passion. Aggression. War.

Jim
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Indeed and thank you RED for everything - even though I don´t know if I can afford an upgrade (depends on the next months rentals) to my very awesome scarlet I am more then happy with what I have. Thank you for taking care of your customers and even more thank you for pushing technology to its limits. Maybe you want to get into the processor and computer bussiness as well - innovation has been lackluster - especially on the highend - in recent years ;)
 
Has anyone from Red posted what they define as 6K for reference purposes? And, these are all fantastic announcements -any word on the internal NDs? Is that still happening?
 
Madjid El ayari said:
Dragon, monstro etc sensor upgrade is fucking exciting , it s like a dream coming thru , but :

Same as Jeffrey , the people who have bought a scarlet are for most of them low budgect people, if they weren t they would have bought an Epic, Epic owner are not low budgect people , the epic cost 3,66 times the price of the scarlet , so i am wondering how much will cost the upgrade for the scarlet Owner ?
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Jim recently said "certainly less than the price of the camera we bought". So should be below the 10000$ upgrade, or maybe quite close to the 6000$ pricetag of the epic upgrade, but still with limitations if they don't change all the boards. The 6k mode maybe won't go above 6fps, the 5k mode would achieve 24fps but maybe not at at low compression, and the 4k would breathe some fresh air with faster framerates. It would be a decent upgrade, but we shouldn't expect the crazy spec of Epic/Dragon.
 
kill'in them

kill'in them

Sometimes I think that all you guy really want to do is drive Arri, Sony, Canon, and all the other "competition" nuts. Make them crazy, keep them up at night gnashing their collective teeth. Go get em boys. It's fun to watch and thank you!
 
This is amazing. More DR than the Alexa, aggressive lowlight, 6K, RAW...specs that blow away the competition all with a built in upgrade path...RED is changing the rules of the game with every new generation of cameras. The competition must feel crushed.

Question: forgive my ignorance, but at 6K what's the crop factor on the new Dragon Sensor going to be?! 1.2? (If Epic 5K was 1.3?). Can someone smart figure out the math from Jim's specs?
 
Who needs HDRx when you have 15+ stops of dynamic range?

And also.... do you get a discount if you've bought the Dragon T-shirt ;)
 
One great thing about waiting for the dragon is being able to use the Scarlet.
Come to think of it I wonder why the RED One owners had such a hard time waiting for EPIC to be released (it was not about the deposits - admit it :-)
 
I am also interested to see what the price point for Scarlet owners will be to upgrade to Dragon...I would love to be able to shoot at a higher compression in order to get higher frame rates (Don't worry I know I didn't buy an EPIC, but higher frame rates with higher compression)
 
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