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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon uncaged...

Can I show a monitor pic from my dragon shoot? Don't have access to a full 6K file to show off the full monty but how about a little sumthin to hold em off?
 
Only if it looks good... :-)

Jim

Christopher Probst said:
Can I show a monitor pic from my dragon shoot? Don't have access to a full 6K file to show off the full monty but how about a little sumthin to hold em off?
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Dustin Veneman said:
Is no one else awake? Lets have it Chris!
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Tried to go to sleep, but my iPhone got me back up...girlfriend tried to silence my incessant blathering about RED...they just don't get it. Haha.
 
This a pic that Phil shot of the 9" Red touch screen monitor on the camera while we were shooting... It's abstract enough that I think I can safely post it here...

desertDragonShoot_0050.jpg


What's funny is I always try to shoot for as little noise as possible... Often landing at 500 or 640 ISO...

Here I was trying to make it dark but the Dragon is so sensitive you really need to rethink your ideas about lighting! The governing factor on this shot was the intensity of the flashlight... At ISO 1500 and 1600, I would have had to futz with NDing the flashlight... We wanted the environment to feel like there was a power outage... As a DP, I wanted enough on my neg to have detail and options without unwanted noise...

I have plenty of noiseless options to knock this down this weekend in the grade!
 
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Christopher Probst said:
This a pic that Phil shot of the 9" Red touch screen monitor on the camera while we were shooting... It's abstract enough that I think I can safely post it here...

desertDragonShoot_0050.jpg


What's funny is I always try to shoot for as little noise as possible... Often lnding at 500 or 640 ISO...

Here I was trying to make it dark but the Dragon is so sensitive you really need to rethink your ideas about lighting! The governing factor on this shot was the intensity of the flashlight... At ISO 1500 and 1600, I would have had to futz with NDing the flashlight... We wanted the environment to feel like there was a power outage... As a DP, I wanted enough on my neg to have detail and options without unwanted noise...

I have plenty of noiseless options to knock this down this weekend in the grade!
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wowowowow Dragooonnnnnn
 
Histogram, goal posts, comments and the image tell a lot. Excited to see the actual.

Basically, you're seeing in the dark with a bright ass practical shining in your lens. Awesome!

Why is there no spike on the flashlight? Or am I missing something. Or am I seeing it? Holy $hit. At ISO 1280!
 
Christopher Probst said:
As a DP, I wanted enough on my neg to have detail and options without unwanted noise...
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Sorry Chris if this a stupid question, but are you saying that you are exposing at a stop that holds the details without having to crush the blacks to avoid noise and wanting the option of crushing the blacks later to change the mood a bit if needed?
 
As long as highlight detail doesn't clip, my dark scenes are always exposed brighter than intended and with a suitably low ISO as the lighting conditions allow. The further you separate your image from any "noise floor" the cleaner the end result will be and the more range (and bits of actual data) for manipulation...

That MX and Dragon are extremely clean to begin with is just a bonus...
 
Christopher Probst said:
As long as highlight detail doesn't clip, my dark scenes are always exposed brighter than intended and with a suitably low ISO as the lighting conditions allow. The further you separate your image from any "noise floor" the cleaner the end result will be and the more range (and bits of actual data) for manipulation...

That MX and Dragon are extremely clean to begin with is just a bonus...
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Chris, another picssssss pleaseeeeeeeeee.:biggrin:
 
Trying to ignore the monitor's image (to a degree) and instead focus on the data, and your description of the scene. DR like no other. I actually wrote something else, but I decided I don't want to sully this rather momentous occasion, or have my Eureka moment be a trail of expletives!!!

Dragon is nothing short of OMG. Whoa.
 
Christopher Probst said:
This a pic that Phil shot of the 9" Red touch screen monitor on the camera while we were shooting... It's abstract enough that I think I can safely post it here...
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It's been funny. Since that shoot "many" folks have emailed and called to discuss dynamic range and how flexible latitude could be.

All I can say is when I saw that histogram in a high contrast situation it was "very noticeable".

Between harsh daylight and low light with high contrast like this I was thoroughly impressed.

Can't wait.
 
Christopher Probst said:
As long as highlight detail doesn't clip, my dark scenes are always exposed brighter than intended and with a suitably low ISO as the lighting conditions allow. The further you separate your image from any "noise floor" the cleaner the end result will be and the more range (and bits of actual data) for manipulation...

That MX and Dragon are extremely clean to begin with is just a bonus...
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Thanks Chris, I respect your work and it's great to hear your thought process. (Love this Forum)

I try to expose a stop above metered exposure so I can crush the blacks a little in post. But my thought process is definitely not as developed as yours.
 
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