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Did somebody try the red drive on Epic yet?

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I guess due to limitation of Epic firmware, it haven't been done yet.
Anyway, I was wondering if someone gave a try to the red drive with Epic?
Feedback would be appreciated.
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you'd be limited to much higher compression ratios anyway. and since there's no way of replacing the red drive anymore, trusting them now so far into their shelf life isn't a good idea. you'd be better off using CF cards, if they are still coming out with an adapter to use.

the long record times are enticing, especially if you got rid of ur r1 body and still have the spare media, but I don't even think the lemo connection for a red drive is on a epic body anymore... I don't remember seeing it on any of the pics. they'd have to build a whole new module for it, and developing that for a EOL accessory doesn't seem very practical.

still good on your trust r1 though.
 
Don't quote me, but I do believe Jarred or Jim said their would be a module that included a way to use the old red drives. I'll see if I can find it...
(Would be a great way to bypass the extremely expensive SSD media but I doubt they could handle 5k 120fps but who knows!)
 
Ryan Lalonde said:
Don't quote me, but I do believe Jarred or Jim said their would be a module that included a way to use the old red drives. I'll see if I can find it...
(Would be a great way to bypass the extremely expensive SSD media but I doubt they could handle 5k 120fps but who knows!)
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I recall the same; a post referencing a 'slimline' additional I/O rear module with just the LEMO drive connector.

And the drives were in the store until a month or two ago, and were marked 'compatible with RED ONE, EPIC, & Scarlet'. No speculation here.

Now we all know we can count on changes... but I don't believe RED would have sold the drives as compatible if they didn't intend to keep their word.

I can work around it for a while, but eventually I'll be doing some VERY long run time (multi-hour) continuous recordings (maybe at 5K, but if so it'll be a very slow frame rate, or even time-lapse). And I sure as hell don't have budget for the quantity of 256GB SSDs that would be needed... big and slow are the way to go for that work, so drives are still very much in my essential toolbox.

Mike
 
We are not going to be making a drive module for the DSMC program. When we came up with that module, we had no sight of the SSD cards and how advantageous they would be. SSD media outweighs the benefits in so many ways, forcing customers to use spinning Drives on EPIC at a reduced resolution and reduced quality settings just didn't make enough sense to continue the legacy.

Just because we like to make things right... we will be offering a trade in program for your RED DRIVES after NAB. We will give you 50% of the purchase price you paid for your RED DRIVE against the purchase of a 256GB SSD card. Hopefully this will help bring you guys forward into the SSD program.
 
That's very generous of Red. Jarred, are we going to see a spike in SSD shipments anytime soon? I'm looking forward to using that system with my current Red MX.
 
Jarred Land said:
We are not going to be making a drive module for the DSMC program. When we came up with that module, we had no sight of the SSD cards and how advantageous they would be. SSD media outweighs the benefits in so many ways, forcing customers to use spinning Drives on EPIC at a reduced resolution and reduced quality settings just didn't make enough sense to continue the legacy.

Just because we like to make things right... we will be offering a trade in program for your RED DRIVES after NAB. We will give you 50% of the purchase price you paid for your RED DRIVE against the purchase of a 256GB SSD card. Hopefully this will help bring you guys forward into the SSD program.
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Thanks very much for the clarification, Jarred - and the generous offer.

Although of course you weren't *forcing* anyone to use spinning drives on EPIC, but the module would at least have given them the option...

I'll have to experiment at some point down the road to clarify how this may serve my eventual needs, but if it doesn't, it won't be RED's fault; you're bending over backwards as usual. If the price/capacity of SSD doesn't cut it, I may have to resort to hackery and try to interface a large-capacity spinning device to the internal port the SSD hooks up to or something. Or even tether the camera to a laptop or something for acquisition.

Mike
 
"We will give you 50% of the purchase price you paid for your RED DRIVE against the purchase of a 256GB SSD card. Hopefully this will help bring you guys forward into the SSD program."
Where do I sign ? I love the SSDs - I might even be tempted to shoot with my Red One again ;-)
 
Jarred Land said:
Just because we like to make things right... we will be offering a trade in program for your RED DRIVES after NAB. We will give you 50% of the purchase price you paid for your RED DRIVE against the purchase of a 256GB SSD card.
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Hi Jarred,

What about a RED RAM that was purchased used from someone on REDuser? I got one after they were no longer available new because I needed it for a GATES housing. I'd love to move to the new SSD drives, but getting two drive modules for the two RED ONEs we are currently using would blow our budget out of the water. We have one Stage 2 EPIC-X coming, and there has been talk of getting a second used RED RAM at some point, but now I'm really unsure of how to proceed.
 
Actually Jarred, now I come to think of it, would you consider making a considerably cheaper SSD module which supports only lower data rates? Perhaps mainly with Scarlet in mind, but also for 'undemanding' EPIC users?

It won't be that long before 512GB 1.8" SSDs become available, probably for under $1k. If you could sell me a lower data rate 512GB SSD for ~$1k, modulo the cost of RED testing & engineering of course, that would be a MUCH better option for me - pretty much in the same price/capacity/performance ballpark as a $900 640GB DRIVE. Because the alternative - spending $6400, less $450 DRIVE trade-in, for 2x256GB SSD, is a bit rich for me at this time...

Just a suggestion for consideration :-)

Mike
 
This is what makes this company so great. Not just a token gesture but a significant sum when it would be so easy to take advantage. Thanks!
 
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