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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

detachable back plate for buttons, similar to a car stereo's detachable face?

joelnet

I don't shoot ENG style that often but I had never thought of laying down one mic to multiple channels at different levels. Thats genius.
 
Finner said:
joelnet

I don't shoot ENG style that often but I had never thought of laying down one mic to multiple channels at different levels. Thats genius.
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Yeah, the first time I heard that idea I think I said "Can you run that by me one more time?" Then I said "friggin' brilliant!!"

With Red you could have 2 shotguns on different actors both mixed to two tracks each with different levels. You don't really need a mixer at that point...you're gonna get a decent signal whether they are whispering or shouting in most cases.

(If RED did 8 tracks it would be even more fun... lapels and shotguns and multiple levels.)
 
ENG, yes. Film shoots, I still think audio is best handled separately with a reference track sent to camera. Leaves each operator with full control over their gear. Less tethers to the camera, more flexibility in shooting. ENG, or run and gun style of shooting has its own set of demands, so sure anything that helps you with making it possible for one operator to get both video and audio is a good thing. I think REd will have to see what works best for their design.
 
Gopher77 said:
...So as far as the sound pots go ... I like the kind that click in and out. You can push it and it pops out to adjust levels. Then push it back in so you don't inadvertently move it.
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Lowkus said:
Or inset the knobs so that the fingers have to reach into a depression to make contact with the knob.
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Inset knobs like on the HVX200? - certainly cheaper and simpler than the "push in/out to adjust" type of knob, although more fiddly and less positive, especially if you have big fingers, or gloves on.

Thought a backward step on the HVX200 over the DVX100 was the loss of the menu joystick in favour of the "cross" of buttons on top. Much harder to use without looking each time.
 
joelnet said:
...With Red you could have 2 shotguns on different actors both mixed to two tracks each with different levels.
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Yes, would be good to at least be able to assign each of two inputs to different pairs of the four tracks.
 
I think it's actually OK to place the screen and knobs on the back, but it would be nearly mandatory to have an additional rear "face" of the camera in a small housing that could be velcroed or caged anywhere else on the body and would replicate the functions of the rear face for the AC. Arri makes a small unit that replicates the info screen and buttons and plugs into the CCU port on any of their modern cameras (Arricam, 535, 435, 235, 416, SR3) It's really great on a small camera like the 416 or the 235 where the main screen is obscured by the operator's head (or in the case of the 235, on the dumb side)
It's funny, because I sort of assumed the Red team already had this in mind...
Cheers,
Harry
 
ericyoung said:
Inset knobs like on the HVX200? - certainly cheaper and simpler than the "push in/out to adjust" type of knob, although more fiddly and less positive, especially if you have big fingers, or gloves on.
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I thought about that... people with fat fingers might have problems if the insets aren't large enough in diameter. And I'll definitely be shooting with gloves on, frequently, so the diameter needs to be that much larger. Maybe inset isn't such a good idea after all.
 
Duplicating the info screen data

Duplicating the info screen data

We did consider that point, which is why all the data that appears on that rear screen is also available in the EVF and also the HD-LCD. The latter is probably what an AC will be using as a visual guide for focus / fps / shutter etc
 
After looking at the pictures from NAB I was wondering if a future update could include a waveform monitor and vector scope in the rear screen display? It would be nice as the camera op to take my eye off the view finder and look at the rear screen and know exactly where my exposure stands.

Gopher
 
How about an "RCU"?

How about an "RCU"?

I'd like an "RCU" type of interface device similar to Arri's. I device that can run most of the camera functions, be used for speed ramping, but could be mounted quickly to the red rails on the smart side or dumb side if need be. More importantly could be attached by a long cable for total control of functions especially start/stop, if used in configurations like remote heads on camera cars or cranes.
 
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