Delivering files with correct color/gamma

[Jason Kraynek]

Wondering the best setting for delivering files from Davinci- everything prores washes out my color, RGB 10bit (full data) makes it too contrasty but closer- RGB 10bit auto/standard data is back to washed out.- whats the way to get out of the program close to what you have graded for a return to Premiere Pro?

 

[Paul Nordin]

For projects that "matter", I export DPX sequences, and master with color managed software (After Effects is).

 

[Antoine Baumann]

there must be something wrong with the software you are visualizing the files. You can safely let the "Auto" levels, choose "Target" and not "Source" and both DPX and QT ProRes will look the same as graded. This is using Resolve 10.1.2
Unfortunately I don't think Premiere Pro is color managed (at least PPro CS6 is not) but After Effects is.

Hope you find the problem.

 

[Jason Kraynek]

i might go back to AE, my only major issue with it before was that the export options were not as rich as Media Encoder

 

[Antoine Baumann]

looking to your attached pic, it seems you are viewing this in qt player. Be aware that this program could interpret your footage in a way you did not want. Just compare all the files in After and then in Premiere.

 

[Shiblon Wixom]

You need a monitor output device, blackmagic or Aja. You cannot simply output through hdmi on your consumer GPU to a consumer monitor.

 

[Jason Kraynek]

the files did look alot closer to Resolve via Premiere, which has always been a bane of my existence in color space/gamma matching- my concern is always whats the best way to output for whatever shifts online makes now with some of the websites/browsers RGB now instead of srgb these days.

 

[Antoine Baumann]

try to output dpx and look in Premiere to compare with Resolve

 

[Jason Kraynek]

try to output dpx and look in Premiere to compare with Resolve

interesting- i didn't know Premiere even accepted DPX- i thought it was just Color/Resolve

 

[Paul Nordin]

Resolve, Premiere, After Effects, and Media Encoder are all happy with DPX files. The big drawback being the file size/disk bandwidth requirements.

Also, replying to your earlier post regarding lack of render options in AE. You can render your AE Comps in Media Encoder and get all those options.

 

[Jason Kraynek]

Resolve, Premiere, After Effects, and Media Encoder are all happy with DPX files. The big drawback being the file size/disk bandwidth requirements.

Also, replying to your earlier post regarding lack of render options in AE. You can render your AE Comps in Media Encoder and get all those options.

rendering the AE comp's in ME is actually what i started doing, just wasnt sure if it was a quick fix or the way to go
I tried doing a DPX of a 15 min collection of videos from Resolve last night and got 15,000 separate DPX files as a result- i'll have to troubleshoot to see why it didn't come through as one file. or is DPX tech just a metadata source (like RMD files).
I skipped using Color back in the day and graded mostly for a few years in Colorista II FCP/PP/AE and now have moved to Resolve last year so theres a few lessons i've missed i'm sure with file structure and such (hell I'm only 4 months in on the Epic workflow)
thanks everyone for their help

 

[Shiblon Wixom]

DPX is an image sequence, not a video file. Most DPX work is done in a Log format of some kind, with the appropriate LUT applied.

I think most people that want to color grade in Resolve are transcoding to ProRes 4444 (16bit) RedLogFilm, and applying the Rec709 Kodak Film LUT.