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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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Unbelievable!

is what I would say if I had camera #13.

;)
 
Brook Willard said:
Since none of this really matters to me, I'm mostly excited to know that the first 12 cameras will ship close to NAB.
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The first 12 cameras = BETA TESTERS.
 
Now I can understand why the april fools day thread was taken down. Too close to truth?

But regardless, I also don't think this small delay is a big deal. We all knew there where going to be some small delays with the first few, especially the feature sets. I have sometimes waited more from B&H for them to send me a backordered item (and they charge the whole amount upfront).
 
The Third Man said:
The first 12 cameras = BETA TESTERS.
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I don't think I would consider the first 12 beta testers. Generally beta testers get pre-production units. Just because Jim is releasing de-featured cameras doesn't necessarily mean that the cameras aren't production units. I don't think the first 12 users would want any less of a camera than the other 1500.
 
It's like we are all beta testers to me, semantically speaking
 
CVB said:
I don't think I would consider the first 12 beta testers. Generally beta testers get pre-production units. Just because Jim is releasing de-featured cameras doesn't necessarily mean that the cameras aren't production units. I don't think the first 12 users would want any less of a camera than the other 1500.
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If I understand Sanjin correctly, I think he meant beta testers as in the first numerical-12 cameras (ie #1 to#12) which includes Boris and the rest of them that are not for sale to the wide public. Maybe... or not, but it came across as that.
 
"The Magnificent 12"

"The Magnificent 12"

CVB said:
I don't think I would consider the first 12 beta testers. Generally beta testers get pre-production units. Just because Jim is releasing de-featured cameras doesn't necessarily mean that the cameras aren't production units. I don't think the first 12 users would want any less of a camera than the other 1500.
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"Although most of the intellectual processes of testing are nearly identical to that of review or inspection, the word testing is connoted to mean the dynamic analysis of the product—putting the product through its paces. Some of the common quality attributes include capability, reliability, efficiency, portability, maintainability, compatibility and usability. A good test is sometimes described as one which reveals an error; however, more recent thinking suggests that a good test is one which reveals information of interest to someone who matters within the project community.
Refer to the ISO standard ISO 9126 for a list of suggested attributes and criteria."

Quote from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_testing
that should be also for hardware testing.

If something is wrong they should report to the RED and even if it is a serious error they must sent camera back to the RED headquarters for the corrections. I am sure "The Magnificent 12" signed some kind of a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) with the RED. They are reporting to the RED and of course NOT to all of us at the forum. It's so clear now who've got the priority. Maybe after the NAB more forum reviews from "The Magnificent 12".

When the official camera shipping start you can use your warranty in the case of any camera error...

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"The Magnificent Twelve" test drive.
 
I think Peter Jackson has RED ONE now for sure, but Lucas still not because he is "Sony Boy" from his early days with CineAlta. But who knows?
 
Considering how aggresive RED is in getting Red One to market, it makes sense to keep the very earliest cameras limited to a few people, and preferably ones you have a personal relationship with. Jim has 1-5, OffHollywood 6&7, Gibby 8, Jarred 10.
 
Jannard said:
It is likely that we will post a timetable for delivery at NAB for the 1st 1500 cameras.

Jim
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Hi Jim,

first let me thank you again for your vision and fantastic products that are in the final stages at RED, it is great that we all be enformed at NAB for our delivery times, but I have kind of a situation and even if I just purchased a Canon XH-A1 last month to begin some prep work, I vould be greatfull if you could give an idea for wen I can espect my first camera #349, I know it will be a bit much longer for my other two (851-852).

Thanks very much,

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

PS. Forgive the broken record Q.
 
Oh Man Billy sucks to be you #13 - no wait I have reservation #1438?

The number 13 interestingly enough is tied to the days of the Templars. It was the date of the King's order to massacre them all in part due to his enormous financial debt to them. They were the first international bankers/ATM's and held enormous wealth and power - let alone the conspiracy theories regarding the Catholic church.

BTW - great web site trailer - look forward to seeing your Red Cinema work.
 
Billy.Summers said:
yeah, yeah...


I know.
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13 was NOT lucky, why?
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The other reason that 13 is considered unlucky is because it was traditionally "God's spot"... and no human was supposed to occupy it.

e.g. There was Jesus and his twelve disciples. Jesus (the supposed only son of God on earth) got to sit in seat thirteen. The Knights of the Holy Grail also had 13 seats at the Round Table... but one (the Seat Perilous) was always left empty in case God wanted to drop by for a chat. Prior to all that, back in nature-worshipping pre-Christian times, there were the twelve houses of the zodiac (thought of as the gods in the "heavens above") and the Sun, which was thought of as God/the source of life, was in the center of it all at number 13.

So Billy, you may find that RED 13 mysteriously shoots 8K... but one day a guy in sandals and a white robe is going to run down the street and say, "Buddy! That's mine!!!"
 
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