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Deadline for trading REd for EPIC?

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Just curious if there will be a deadline for trading in a RED for EPIC credit?
Thanks :)
 
It was announced last week or so that EPIC is being re-designed / in the process of change. So I don't think there's a rush and would anticipate some delay as RED refines the product.
 
Actually ... as RED seems like they may "catch up" to orders (if Big Jon's dates hold) before the end of the year ... you would be able to buy a RED and get it very quickly.

So I wonder if Jim will announce something like - "you must buy a RED before XXXX if you want to qualify for the CREDIT FOR FULL VAULE OF THE RED ONE towards Epic ...?
 
Mark, the upgrade to the Epic will be free?
 
Offhollywood said:
Actually ... as RED seems like they may "catch up" to orders (if Big Jon's dates hold) before the end of the year ... you would be able to buy a RED and get it very quickly.

So I wonder if Jim will announce something like - "you must buy a RED before XXXX if you want to qualify for the FREE upgrade to Epic ...?
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oh oh, Mark you might want to clarify...
 
Offhollywood said:
LOL!! changed my text - you know what I meant!!
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Was pretty sure that was the case but with this company's motto of all things are subject to change etc. etc.... you never take anything for granted.:biggrin:
 
Offhollywood said:
Actually ... as RED seems like they may "catch up" to orders (if Big Jon's dates hold) before the end of the year ... you would be able to buy a RED and get it very quickly.

So I wonder if Jim will announce something like - "you must buy a RED before XXXX if you want to qualify for the CREDIT FOR FULL VAULE OF THE RED ONE towards Epic ...?
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I'm not sure I understand this. The release of EPIC would be the determining factor of how long you can still by a RED ONE and upgrade to EPIC, not the availability of RED ONEs... right?

And as RED ONEs begin to flood the market, all the more reason for RED to offer incentives to sell more...

right?
 
Brandon said:
The release of EPIC would be the determining factor of how long you can still by a RED ONE and upgrade to EPIC, not the availability of RED ONEs... right?

And as RED ONEs begin to flood the market, all the more reason for RED to offer incentives to sell more...

right?
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Maybe. But what if Jim already decided how much he would be willing to EAT for customer loyalty? I don't think he can take $17,500 off another product and not loose something, right? Right now, his customers have reservations.

I have a "funny feeling" that EPIC is going to be so far beyond anyone's expectations that I struggle to think why anyone will not upgrade, unless they simply can't afford it - so yeah - that begs the question of "how long do I have to upgrade before I loose the opportunity?" - and it might make MORE sense for Jim to let that period be long or even indefinite - and simply not give new customers who didn't take the plunge - the privilege of full credit on an Epic upgrade. And I was just suggesting (thinking out loud) that if he decided to do that - I would assume he would announce it - and folks would have a "last chance" to buy into Red.

But who knows ... all things subject to change. We all know that Jim puts his customer loyalty first, and we also know ... people are going to bitch and moan regardless.

Anyway ... I am so excited for EPIC I can't stand to think about it.

I just wonder where all the Red Ones are going to go ...?

But who
 
Offhollywood said:
Maybe. But what if Jim already decided how much he would be willing to EAT for customer loyalty? I don't think he can take $17,500 off another product and not loose something, right? Right now, his customers have reservations.

I have a "funny feeling" that EPIC is going to be so far beyond anyone's expectations that I struggle to think why anyone will not upgrade, unless they simply can't afford it - so yeah - that begs the question of "how long do I have to upgrade before I loose the opportunity?" - and it might make MORE sense for Jim to let that period be long or even indefinite - and simply not give new customers who didn't take the plunge - the privilege of full credit on an Epic upgrade. And I was just suggesting (thinking out loud) that if he decided to do that - I would assume he would announce it - and folks would have a "last chance" to buy into Red.

But who knows ... all things subject to change. We all know that Jim puts his customer loyalty first, and we also know ... people are going to bitch and moan regardless.

Anyway ... I am so excited for EPIC I can't stand to think about it.

I just wonder where all the Red Ones are going to go ...?

But who
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I don't see why the Epic upgrade program would be limited to early adopters. It seems like it will make sense for all customers and secure the value of a Red One. Am I missing something?

IBloom
 
ibloom said:
I don't see why the Epic upgrade program would be limited to early adopters. It seems like it will make sense for all customers and secure the value of a Red One. Am I missing something?

IBloom
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I hardly call someone buying a camera after 5000 or so ship an early adopter. But, you might be right, Ian. It's just hard for me to imagine the massive pile of Red One cameras as everyone grabs their Epics -
 
Security cameras for Red Ranch.
 
I was told you'll have to trade in within 30 days of when your Epic is ready to ship or you lose trade-in rights. I expect that will be roughly the guidelines they stick to, but it's also a little early for them to carve policy in stone.
 
Offhollywood said:
I hardly call someone buying a camera after 5000 or so ship an early adopter. But, you might be right, Ian. It's just hard for me to imagine the massive pile of Red One cameras as everyone grabs their Epics -
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I don't think the trade in deal is pure generosity, I think it's part of a well thought out long term business plan. These cameras after all are an investment and they have resale value that needs to be considered. They cost as much as a car and you can trade them in just like a car. It makes sense to me.

IBloom
 
ibloom said:
I don't think the trade in deal is pure generosity, I think it's part of a well thought out long term business plan. These cameras after all are an investment and they have resale value that needs to be considered. They cost as much as a car and you can trade them in just like a car. It makes sense to me.

IBloom
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Show me a car dealer that will only charge you for the price difference between your old car's price AS NEW and the new and vastly improved model you are buying. :wink:

If RED gave us a $10,000 credit it would still be a great deal.

Fredrik
 
At the first place RED is a company. After RED anounced the EPIC, I think they simple dont want that people postpone the decission to buy any RED Cam till Epic is out. Look some posting where people ask if they should wait till REDONE will get mystic sensor.
No Jim is not a Samaritian. he wants to run the company.
Fortunatly REDS aim oently fits the customer profit.
So in the case of trade in it is a win win for both sides.
I suggest trade in latest will stop when Epic is aviable.
When it comes to the delivery for EPIC i think he gives people resonable time to make a decission.
BTW I think we should not overexpecting the number of people who will trade in the EPIC. For a lot of people RED one will be good enough for their dayli buisness.
In additional EPIC will need a lot of more investment like simple buy the boddy if you want to use its full value. So Red drive cards could not be used in full because of the high datarate of epic.
 
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