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DaVinci Resolve v9 Released

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We are pleased to announce the release of DaVinci Resolve v9 public beta. This includes Mac, Windows and Linux builds as well as Mac Lite and Windows Lite. With more than 90 new features and a completely redesigned interface to help you grade faster we hope you will visit our BMD support web page to download.
This update is available free for existing customers.
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Just pulled a Resolve 8 project in. Most everything seemed to transfer over without a hitch. LOVE having Magic Motion there instead of having to do the multi-input / layer mixer method!
 
Obviously, I'm very happy about the new Log grading implementation, but so far I'm a little confused about the grading controls. So, now that it's officially out, can someone explain the theory behind 4 track balls in Log grading and three track balls on the panel? I see "low, mids and high" controls along with the contrast, but what about brightness control? Also, I'm curious, if the contrast control can be selected to introduce an S curve automatically or it is always a flat curve?
Great job by the way on the interface improvements, while keeping the familiar operation intact. That makes transition to v9 very easy. Also, very happy to see available user selectable shortcuts from other editing solutions, very handy for migrating editors trying out the Resolve. Overall, brilliant upgrade!
 
Thanks
 
jake blackstone said:
Obviously, I'm very happy about the new Log grading implementation, but so far I'm a little confused about the grading controls. So, now that it's officially out, can someone explain the theory behind 4 track balls in Log grading and three track balls on the panel? I see "low, mids and high" controls along with the contrast, but what about brightness control?!
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The fourth trackball is mapped to the Offset controls, effectively giving you an Exposure control much like you would have on Baselight or Resolve in log grading mode (on Baselight, it would be for a Film Grade strip). The new generation DaVinci panels (the "Impresario" panels) have always had four trackballs, not 3. And the fourth trackball has been mappable to the Offset controls for some time, at least the last two Resolve versions. In addition, the current Tangent Element panel set has 4 trackballs. I haven't looked at the mappings for the Element yet, but my hope is that DaVinci has either mapped Offset to the fourth trackball or will in the near future (it's been requested by myself and a number of other beta testers).

A typical log grading toolset has exposure and contrast as its primary controls, and shadows, midtones, and highlights as its alternate controls. That's exactly what the log toolset in Resolve 9 gives you. An S curve control might be something you would like, and something that Scratch happens to have, but if you're setting up a proper log grading pipeline its not something you really want to use because in a proper pipeline, the output LUT is going to properly "de-log" the image coming into it. Same thing in an ACES pipeline. If you really want to alter the greyscale, you can always use curves.
 
M Most said:
The fourth trackball is mapped to the Offset controls, effectively giving you an Exposure control much like you would have on Baselight or Resolve in log grading mode (on Baselight, it would be for a Film Grade strip). The new generation DaVinci panels (the "Impresario" panels) have always had four trackballs, not 3. And the fourth trackball has been mappable to the Offset controls for some time, at least the last two Resolve versions. In addition, the current Tangent Element panel set has 4 trackballs. I haven't looked at the mappings for the Element yet, but my hope is that DaVinci has either mapped Offset to the fourth trackball or will in the near future (it's been requested by myself and a number of other beta testers).

A typical log grading toolset has exposure and contrast as its primary controls, and shadows, midtones, and highlights as its alternate controls. That's exactly what the log toolset in Resolve 9 gives you. An S curve control might be something you would like, and something that Scratch happens to have, but if you're setting up a proper log grading pipeline its not something you really want to use because in a proper pipeline, the output LUT is going to properly "de-log" the image coming into it. Same thing in an ACES pipeline. If you really want to alter the greyscale, you can always use curves.
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Yes, four trackballs is one way of doing it. Lustre, Baselight and Filmmaster doesn't and that is what I'm referring to, as majority of panels do not have 4 trackballs, like MC Color, that I use. I hope this is not a situation, where it is a "BM panel only" operation. I hope, that I and everyone, that uses a three trackballs panels don't have to spend $3500 to be able to use the fourth trackball, where a simple trackballs re-mapping would suffice. It seems right now, it's a no go. For example, in Lustre the right trackball is the Contrast control, center is Brightness/Exposure control and the left trackball is user selectsble on a panel to H/M/L. Makes perfect sense to me.
An automatic, user selectable S-log curve was requested and discussed previously. FilmMaster would be just one example of such S-log operation. Obviously, it can be introduced with a separate curve control, but all that mens that it will require an extra step, multiplied by number of events and all of a sudden it is a serious burden.
 
Just looked at the support notes. No new panel mappings for third party panels that access the Log grading controls. Hopefully this will come soon.
 
Can someone with Elements panel verify, that the fourth trackball on Elements panel works correctly in Log mode? If it is, it may be the perfect reason, at least for me, to move over to Elements. I just hate to spend $3500 just to be able to use the Log grading, where a simple panel re-mapping would do...
 
Can someone with Elements panel verify, that the fourth trackball on Elements panel works correctly in Log mode? If it is, it may be the perfect reason, at least for me, to move over to Elements. I just hate to spend kr21,235.28 ($3500) just to be able to use the Log grading, where a simple panel re-mapping would do...
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Yes! Could someone please verify this?
 
Are there any changes to HDRX support? In 8, it seems that to use HDRX you add the HDRX track as a second source and also add a layer mixer node to blend the normal and HDRX tracks. Perhaps that is good enough, I'm not sure.

Thanks all.
 
M Most said:
I'm quite sure it does not. None of the other mappings seem to have changed from the set available in 8.2.

I'm willing and anxious to be proven wrong, though.
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I'm puzzled, as I can't imagine, that the company would release a major feature, that is only usable to, what, may be .1% of users, that are in possession of BM panel.
I'm not complaining, because at this price BM can pretty much do anything they like. I'm just puzzled...
 
jake blackstone said:
Can someone with Elements panel verify, that the fourth trackball on Elements panel works correctly in Log mode? If it is, it may be the perfect reason, at least for me, to move over to Elements. I just hate to spend $3500 just to be able to use the Log grading, where a simple panel re-mapping would do...
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I can verify that "Shadow", "Midtones" and "Highlights" are all mapped and work on the element panel just fine but "Offset" does not map to the fourth trackball yet. As of now the fourth trackball is useless in Resolve. But, I've been on the Beta for over a month and updates come pretty fast, and none of the LOG controls were working at all up until yesterdays build before release so give it time, i'm sure it will happen soon. Also, it would be nice to have the "Contrast" and "Low Range" "High Range" mappable to one of the "Primary Knobs" since there are so many empty knobs not doing anything currently. I think once the Element has most of the functions mapped properly to it you will feel like its a really worthy upgrade. Even without the functionality i wish it had mentioned above I'm still using it day in and day out and love it.
 
Let's give it a try. I always believed that some version of the 9.0 would get released in July, even if on the 31st. Thanks BMD.
 
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