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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DaVinci Resolve V7.0 Supports Rocket

Jake, where did you read that ? This will be really really great if Davinci support cineform files, it's the best !
 
mikeburton said:
Not quite free, you still must pay the $995 FCS price tag, plus MacPro, plus RAID plus a control surface as well. Oh, and Kona 3 to monitor out to your SDI display.
Okay, maybe you don't NEED the control surface but if we are talking apples to apples here than the only thing really missing is the REDROCKET support from COLOR and of course the power of DaVinci. Oh, yeah, and with all that COLOR still won't be realtime.
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I would be somewhat shocked if anyone posting on RedUser on this topic didn't already have a Mac, Final Cut Studio, and a monitor, and thus already have Color. What they might not have is the specific NVidia card that DaVinci requires, fast storage, a proper grading monitor of some sort, and a control surface. However, as many here have noted over the last few years, that doesn't seem to stop them from using Color without a control surface (something I certainly wouldn't recommend with DaVinci software), and with the ATI card supplied with their computer. So for all of them, Color is free, DaVinci is, ahem, not. I'm not talking about professional facilities here, as most of them (not all, but most) don't have Color in client suites anyway. I'm talking about the individual users, who seem to account for many, if not most, of the posts here regarding Mac based DaVinci.
 
M Most said:
I don't think so. Not when a DaVinci/Mac setup like you're hinting at will cost at least $9000 (Software $1000, Red Rocket $5000, NVidia card $700, not to mention faster storage, control panel, and an acceptable monitoring setup) and Color is, well, free.
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That's true, but I already own everything but Resolve & a control panel so it'll only be 1,000 for me (control panel isn't necessary correct)?
Also, I'm curious if a less expensive control panel such as the Tagent Devices could be used with Resolve?
 
Stephen Lovett said:
Michael,

I spoke to the product manager at NAB and at that time his answer was first on black magic cards, AJA the Kona 3 to follow.

I haven't heard anything since.

The plot thickens as AJA is rumored to be announcing an updated Kona product at IBC as well.

Exciting times,

Steve
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Exciting news indeed... except for the part where I have to shell over another 3500 (or whatever) for the new Kona. Hopefully I can just keep the Kona 3 (it already does more than i need it to)... if it turns out the Kona 3 doesn't work I suppose I can sell it and put that money towards the new one... or perhaps the one designed for resolve.
 
jake blackstone said:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/929
Don't get too excited. It's Linux only, hence the question...
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Based on the subject line:
"Resolve on Mac supports Red Rocket, ProRes and Cineform"

And the sentences:
"Resolve on Mac also supports ProRes and H.264. Mac and Linux support Cineform file playback inc. stereo and with an additional license read and write of DNxHD."

I'd assume it was:
Linux: Cineform, DNxHD (with license)
Mac: Cineform, DNxHD (with license), ProRes, H.264

Fingers crossed!

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Bruce Allen said:
Based on the subject line:
"Resolve on Mac supports Red Rocket, ProRes and Cineform"

And the sentences:
"Resolve on Mac also supports ProRes and H.264. Mac and Linux support Cineform file playback inc. stereo and with an additional license read and write of DNxHD."

I'd assume it was:
Linux: Cineform, DNxHD (with license)
Mac: Cineform, DNxHD (with license), ProRes, H.264

Fingers crossed!

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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I believe that should be the case and make perfect sense
 
Nvidia Quadro then Rocket then decklink extreme then RAID controller.... probably this setup will work ??? it will get very worm inside of the mac with this cards :) but rocket support on Davinci is a great news..... so we get realtime full debayer playback in resolve with the rocket and full control with the raw metadata ?
 
M Most said:
I would be somewhat shocked if anyone posting on RedUser on this topic didn't already have a Mac, Final Cut Studio, and a monitor, and thus already have Color. What they might not have is the specific NVidia card that DaVinci requires, fast storage, a proper grading monitor of some sort, and a control surface. However, as many here have noted over the last few years, that doesn't seem to stop them from using Color without a control surface (something I certainly wouldn't recommend with DaVinci software), and with the ATI card supplied with their computer. So for all of them, Color is free, DaVinci is, ahem, not. I'm not talking about professional facilities here, as most of them (not all, but most) don't have Color in client suites anyway. I'm talking about the individual users, who seem to account for many, if not most, of the posts here regarding Mac based DaVinci.
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To those have all that equipment then... it's not a $9K investment is it?
 
M Most said:
I would be somewhat shocked if anyone posting on RedUser on this topic didn't already have a Mac, Final Cut Studio, and a monitor, and thus already have Color. What they might not have is the specific NVidia card that DaVinci requires, fast storage, a proper grading monitor of some sort, and a control surface. However, as many here have noted over the last few years, that doesn't seem to stop them from using Color without a control surface (something I certainly wouldn't recommend with DaVinci software), and with the ATI card supplied with their computer. So for all of them, Color is free, DaVinci is, ahem, not. I'm not talking about professional facilities here, as most of them (not all, but most) don't have Color in client suites anyway. I'm talking about the individual users, who seem to account for many, if not most, of the posts here regarding Mac based DaVinci.
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Your version of paying for something and its "free" and mine must be different. You may not have to pay immediately but you've already paid for it, hence COLOR, your MacPro and Monitor is still not free.
You're also assuming most here have a MacPro that will be up to spec with the minimum system requirements Blackmagic has yet to post. If the minimum system requirement is an 2.26 8 core Nahelem MacPro than I'm sure about 50% or more of the users here will need a new MacPro to accommodate the minimum requirements. Of course, from the demo's I've seen even if your Mac doesn't meet the spec'd system requirements doesn't mean it won't run, just means it might not run in realtime. Either way, a decent COLOR system and a decent Resolve system costs, just not as much as it used to.
 
RivaiC said:
Jake, i dont get it, it says here on your link :

"Mac and Linux support Cineform file playback inc. stereo and with an additional license read and write of DNxHD."

So Davinci Mac indeed supports cineform files.

Rivai
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Oops, my bad. I guess didn't read it correctly or it's time for new glasses:-)
With support for all listed codecs, Resolve clearly establishing the leadership in flexible workflow. All Resolve needs now is the support for FCP XML and we're all set.
 
craigjkharris said:
To those have all that equipment then... it's not a $9K investment is it?
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Software $1000
Rocket $5000
NVidia $700
Storage $3000
Monitor $2000 (assuming a plasma, the least expensive solution)

That's over $11,000 right there, not including a control panel or the computer. Remember, I said that the "average" Color user doesn't have any of those things, and for their purposes, doesn't feel they need them.
 
mikeburton said:
Your version of paying for something and its "free" and mine must be different. You may not have to pay immediately but you've already paid for it, hence COLOR, your MacPro and Monitor is still not free.
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I was referring to someone who already had those things, which is the vast majority of people on RedUser.

You're also assuming most here have a MacPro that will be up to spec with the minimum system requirements Blackmagic has yet to post. If the minimum system requirement is an 2.26 8 core Nahelem MacPro than I'm sure about 50% or more of the users here will need a new MacPro to accommodate the minimum requirements. Of course, from the demo's I've seen even if your Mac doesn't meet the spec'd system requirements doesn't mean it won't run, just means it might not run in realtime. Either way, a decent COLOR system and a decent Resolve system costs, just not as much as it used to.
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Sounds like you're agreeing with me regarding the higher costs of DaVinci... :confused1:
 
M Most said:
Software $1000
Rocket $5000
NVidia $700
Storage $3000
Monitor $2000 (assuming a plasma, the least expensive solution)

That's over $11,000 right there, not including a control panel or the computer. Remember, I said that the "average" Color user doesn't have any of those things, and for their purposes, doesn't feel they need them.
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Anyone who gets paid as a colorist with Apple Color should already have good storage ($3000), a control panel ($2000) and a good monitor (at least $2000). If you already have a Red Rocket or Decklink Extreme, I'm assuming it's for professional use and has paid for itself.
In my case, those are all tools that I already own and have paid for. In other words, they are making me money. Therefore, to upgrade to the DaVinci suite will cost me $1700 - not $11,000.
 
M Most said:
I was referring to someone who already had those things, which is the vast majority of people on RedUser.



Sounds like you're agreeing with me regarding the higher costs of DaVinci... :confused1:
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Yes, I am agreeing with you that DaVinci will be higher costs but only as it pertains specifically for RED as everything else would still apply essentially.
 
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