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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Crimson Workflow is available for download.

Hey Ian,
Is 0.9.45R Rip Tide still current, I have got a TVC coming up shooting on the red, and I am not using any snow leopard machines (there seems to be an issue with it and my video cards, so I will not update anytime soon)
 
brandon thomas said:
is there a way to use Crimson with RedCine-X?
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I 2nd this question. The lack of XML support is really bothering me. I love redcine, but I'm forced to use redcine-x because of upgrading to the MX sensor. I'm really hoping someone comes up with a solution for this.
 
Patch for Redcine-X?

Patch for Redcine-X?

Brandon Kraemer said:
Ian,

I posted this on the thread "Newer Redcine-X is posted" but received no response from the Red Team. Maybe you're the best person to ask this of.

It appears that importing intermediate alias files is not compatible with Redcine-X... which means that using Crimson Workflow to facilitate transcoding cutdown selects is disabled. This is a setback for our workflow. Is there forthcoming support for this?
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bump... Ian is this possible, to load intermediate clips in Redcine-X?

Will there be a patch to support this?
 
Brandon Kraemer said:
bump... Ian is this possible, to load intermediate clips in Redcine-X?

Will there be a patch to support this?
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Well,

What I call a "cowboy-intermediate" is really a symbolic link on your filesystem. Many programs see symbolic links transparently, as though they are the original file, but the last time I checked Redcine-X is not one. So the answer is no... but on the upside, if there is eventually XML support in Redcine-X and it simply loads clips in the order specified by the XML, and allows multiple references to the same clip then... the whole reason for inventing the cowboys in the first place is eliminated. I will support that either by modifying the original Crimson or via my new software, depending on which is more practical when the time comes.

Until then your guess is as good as mine.

Cheers,
IBloom
 
I Bloom said:
Well,

What I call a "cowboy-intermediate" is really a symbolic link on your filesystem. Many programs see symbolic links transparently, as though they are the original file, but the last time I checked Redcine-X is not one. So the answer is no... but on the upside, if there is eventually XML support in Redcine-X and it simply loads clips in the order specified by the XML, and allows multiple references to the same clip then... the whole reason for inventing the cowboys in the first place is eliminated. I will support that either by modifying the original Crimson or via my new software, depending on which is more practical when the time comes.

Until then your guess is as good as mine.

Cheers,
IBloom
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Thanks for the explanation Ian,

Cheers!

bk
 
Dave,

I can't really answer your question directly but my guess is that once Redcine-X progresses further you won't need a third party like Crimson to do a complete workflow... this was an assumption I made almost two years ago when I started this new project.

IBloom
 
Sidney said:
well Red told me xml import/export is for 3rd party to develop?
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At Red Day, there was a development build of Redcine-X that supported an EDL import, and they say it's forthcoming. No time given as to when.

Seems like something was changed from Redcine to Redcine-X to not permit referring files like the "cowboy intermediates" and that this would be an easy enough thing to change back?
 
Brandon Kraemer said:
At Red Day, there was a development build of Redcine-X that supported an EDL import, and they say it's forthcoming. No time given as to when.

Seems like something was changed from Redcine to Redcine-X to not permit referring files like the "cowboy intermediates" and that this would be an easy enough thing to change back?
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There are plenty of good reasons not to see symbolic links transparently when traversing a file structure... In a program that automatically searches a drive for R3D files as Redcine-X does it seems like the right choice, in fact Crimson doesn't see symbolic links transparently either ;). With something so low level as filesystem access it's a good idea not to mess around.

I think you just need to give them some time. Redcine-X doesn't appear to be a rewrite of Redcine, but a brand new program written from scratch. Or not from scratch as the case may be. That's quite a feat for such a small period of time.

IBloom
 
Hey Ian, whatever happened you that entirely brand new program of yours that Mark was raving about like a year ago?

btw, still love Crimson, if you get into the code you should add a Prores4444 option.
 
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