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Considering Resolve as my new edit platform- anyone else?

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I need to move to a new edit platform from FCP7 and am seriously considering Resolve as my new edit and grading app.

I own the paid version and think as they develop the collaboration aspect it could be a great platform for doing a feature film with ingest station, assistant editor, sound etc all working of the same project file.


And the ability to work on Color treatment Right from the start of editing seems ideal.


Anyone else doing or considering the same move? (as opposed to avid or premier)
 
I don't think it's quite there yet because of the issues with audio performance. But I'm confident that Resolve 12 will have many fixes and improvements.

I don't have a problem using one program for picture editing, one program for sound editing & mixing, one program for VFX, and another program for color correction. It's a question of finding the best software for one specific job. One program can't do it all, and I suspect this will always be the case.
 
I can't imagine Resolve every being as robust an editing platform as Avid, Premiere, etc.

Specializing at times can be very beneficial....
 
Call me crazypants; I'm making a point of not using resolve at all.

I've even recently added the symphony option to avid, but haven't got a chance to really get into it.
All in a quest to avoid the flaky/buggy solutions and poor/rude support from BlackMagic Design.

If redcine expanded curve functionality, added gang curves for one, it would be a cold day in hell if ever touched resolve again.
 
I use Resolve as my main NLE unless I'm doing chroma keying. I keep requesting that BMD includes a chroma key plug-in. Hopefully with their acquisition of Fusion, they can integrate more VFX tools.

If people gave Resolve a chance as an editor, I think they'd be surprised at how good it is for basic stuff.
 
It can be prohibitively discouraging when simple things like grabbing a handle near the edge of a window require a dozen attempts and then often result in out of control manipulations. If it were easier to navigate the timeline that wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

OTOH it is great to be able to make minor adjustments to an edit without having to run the XML gauntlet for every late change.

These days I am frequently prepping dailies and offline proxies so my color work begins before a frame is ever cut. We do this without having to edit much of anything in Resolve and for now that seems to be for the best.
 
like grabbing a handle near the edge of a window require a dozen attempts and then often result in out of control manipulations.
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... or using the delete key acts as a ripple edit.

Resolve is ok for patching the odd mistake or a substitution on an existing timeline, but as a fully fledged editor it leaves a lot to be desired.
 
Richard_D said:
I need to move to a new edit platform from FCP7 and am seriously considering Resolve as my new edit and grading app.

I own the paid version and think as they develop the collaboration aspect it could be a great platform for doing a feature film with ingest station, assistant editor, sound etc all working of the same project file.


And the ability to work on Color treatment Right from the start of editing seems ideal.


Anyone else doing or considering the same move? (as opposed to avid or premier)
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There is another very popular NLE out there; already capable of editing a feature. And I hear it plays very well with Resolve.

But, you knew someone would allude to it sooner or later. :-)
 
Resolve is great for moving a frame here or there, or fixing a bad XML import, but lacks basic tools you would need to do serious editing. It's just not designed for that.
 
Resolves editing is mainly in there to, from time to time, make adjustments without having to go back to the traditional NLE. While the editing in resolve is handy, I don't feel it is a substitute for AVID, PREMIERE, FCP7, FCPx, LIGHTWORKS, VEGAS, etc, etc, etc.

They might want to move it that way, but I personally consider it a very fine Color corrector with editing features to make some parts of CC and conforming go a bit easier.
 
Thanks for all the great opinions. I am hoping they will take care of some of the issues people are having. I guess I will stick with FCP7 for now and see what developments bmd makes.
 
For anyone coming from FCP7, I recommend Premiere. It has the most immediately familiar interface layout and you can even use all the same keyboard commands.

I have to disagree with Daniel's comment regarding poor/ rude support from BMD. At least in regards to Resolve. Peter, Rohit and the other guys on the Resolve team are very helpful. Adobe, on the other hand, has shit for support. They can't even address billing issues or help with cloud problems. While I'm recommending Adobe, I do it through clenched teeth. If it weren't for my ongoing need to use Photoshop as the de-facto industry standard along with Illustrator and InDesign. As well as Premiere being the best supportive NLE for R3D workflows at this time, I would dump CC altogether. So none of the options are ideal.
 
I was giving some thought to making this my editing platform as well. I like the interface. I don't like the Adobe subscription model - hate it, actually. And have just never really been able to embrace FCPX. So I also feel a bit in limbo, from an editing standpoint.

Resolve 11 is super solid on my laptop but crashes all the time on my MacPro. Frustratingly inconsistent. I hope they can improve the stability - I would like like it to become a viable editing platform.
 
Resolve is turning into an editing app now?

That's always been the future I looked forward, one program to edit and grade.

Richard_D said:
I need to move to a new edit platform from FCP7 and am seriously considering Resolve as my new edit and grading app.

I own the paid version and think as they develop the collaboration aspect it could be a great platform for doing a feature film with ingest station, assistant editor, sound etc all working of the same project file.


And the ability to work on Color treatment Right from the start of editing seems ideal.


Anyone else doing or considering the same move? (as opposed to avid or premier)
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Will Keir said:
Resolve is turning into an editing app now?

That's always been the future I looked forward, one program to edit and grade.
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I think since resolve 10 they have been promoting it as an editing app as well. Their seems to be 4 different "styles" of editors that are likely to be used by us owner/operator sometimes editors: AVID, Final Cut 7, Final Cut X, and Adobe Premiere. The Blackmagic team has the advantage of seeing what others have done right (or wrong) and it seems like they are serious about continually developing it. It will be interesting to see where it goes.
 
Daniel Reed said:
I've even recently added the symphony option to avid, but haven't got a chance to really get into it.
All in a quest to avoid the flaky/buggy solutions and poor/rude support from BlackMagic Design. If redcine expanded curve functionality, added gang curves for one, it would be a cold day in hell if ever touched resolve again.
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I've used Redcine-X Pro briefly and played with it as a color corrector, and comparing that to Resolve is kind of like comparing a cap gun to a flamethrower. You'd be surprised how often power windows, keying, curves, and layered corrections have to be used in real, everyday situations. I find the product support from BMD is excellent provided you know who to ask and know the right user groups. It also helps to know experienced colorists who can anticipate problems before they happen.

To me, Redcine-X Pro is fine for viewing & prepping dailies for editorial. I wouldn't ever want to use it for anything beyond that.

I have my reservations about using Resolve as an editor, but it seems to me that BMD is positioning Resolve as a kind of replacement for Avid Nitris DS: an all-in-one finishing tool. For certain things, it can work but I don't think it's quite there yet. I would expect that v12 will get a lot closer.
 
Resolve as Editor

Resolve as Editor

Resolve seems viable as an editor. DaVinci is quite in touch with the needs of the facility and professional workflow. There is definitely a big plus to having turnkey hardware and software solution.

If you are banging away at an editorial timeline all day and need critical delivery, color management, Avid and Autodesk still provide the strongest set of editorial tools, GUI's are ugly, but the software is bulletproof. Finalcut and Premiere are more appealing to a general audience due to their intuitive nature. Im not quite sure either will ever completely breakaway from their prosumer roots.

Go for it!
 
I've been using Resolve a lot in an on line capacity for 4k The power it has is the ease of relinking to R3d files, and using that for your outputs. I would not cut a big project on it as the tools are just not there. Specifically audio. It's power is in its colour correcting. Symphony to me is not the best option because Avid does not work well with red. I want to do all my colour and resizing on 6k files. The latest version has been very stable. I hope they continue to develop it.
 
I like Resolve for color. When they presented the editing tools and layout last year I dabbled with it, even as recently as January. For me it lacks the "editing finesse" that Avid, Adobe Premiere Pro, or Final Cut bring to the table. Color-wise though, it's obviously a beast.

Basic color through Final Cut and Adobe Premiere Pro has been around for a while. The new "jump" integration into Adobe SpeedGrade has been really nice, though I still want "more" out of the software. I do prefer some features from SpeedGrade over Resolve and vice-versa. I'd love to smash those programs together really. Dynamic Link to SpeedGrade and After Effects has become indispensable for me and I do work with native .R3Ds quite often in Premiere Pro.

I have a feeling there's going to be some very next level integration coming from Adobe at NAB this year however. Adobe CC 2015 is not far away really.

My fingers are crossed.
 
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